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Norbie Forums Junkie Location: Brisbane Registered: May 2002	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally! Thu, 07 October 2004 06:59 Nark wrote on Thu, 07 October 2004 16:46 Show me Groups working properly in Windows. WTF? Every major corporate rollout of Windows uses groups (it would be impossible to manage a larger userbase without it). It certainly works fine for my multinational employer! Quote: But what set of permissions does the default user have on a clean install of Windows? Is there even mention that the user will have Administration priveliges? Are the users told that this is a bad idea? In recent versions of Windows, the installation process creates an Administrator account and then prompts the user to create user account(s) which by default are NOT added to the Administrators group. Quote: The fundamental core of Windows is not secure. They have just built stuff around it to try to prevent people/worms/virii doing bad things to the system. Like Outlook blocking off all EXEs. So what you're saying is the average home user does not know how to set up a PC securely. We all know this already, but what can you really do about it? And how the hell does that make Windows fundamentally insecure? If you said Windows was easy to set up insecurely I'd agree with you, but that's saying something completely different. [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Wed, 06 October 2004 09:40
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Mr DOHC	Wed, 06 October 2004 09:49
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Wed, 06 October 2004 09:58
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Mr DOHC	Wed, 06 October 2004 10:02
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Wed, 06 October 2004 10:06
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	THE WITZL	Wed, 06 October 2004 10:05
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Wed, 06 October 2004 10:07
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Wed, 06 October 2004 10:09
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	stumpy	Wed, 06 October 2004 10:12
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Cool1	Wed, 06 October 2004 10:19
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Wed, 06 October 2004 10:25
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Wed, 06 October 2004 13:09
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Cool1	Wed, 06 October 2004 13:20
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Wed, 06 October 2004 13:24
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	EvilJack	Wed, 06 October 2004 12:25
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	SupraPete	Wed, 06 October 2004 14:06
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Wed, 06 October 2004 14:13
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Norbie	Wed, 06 October 2004 23:40
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 00:32
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	SupraPete	Thu, 07 October 2004 00:48
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 01:19
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Joshstix	Thu, 07 October 2004 02:11
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 02:31
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Norbie	Thu, 07 October 2004 03:10
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	rthy	Thu, 07 October 2004 03:17
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	river	Thu, 07 October 2004 06:03
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Thu, 07 October 2004 06:05
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	SupraPete	Thu, 07 October 2004 03:31
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 04:04
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Norbie	Thu, 07 October 2004 05:15
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	SupraPete	Thu, 07 October 2004 01:07
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Norbie	Thu, 07 October 2004 01:59
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Joshstix	Thu, 07 October 2004 02:16
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Bradelz	Thu, 07 October 2004 02:30
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	lyle-act	Thu, 07 October 2004 02:37
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Thu, 07 October 2004 02:55
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	AE86slut	Thu, 07 October 2004 03:09
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Thu, 07 October 2004 03:17
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Thu, 07 October 2004 04:58
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 06:46
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Norbie	Thu, 07 October 2004 06:59
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 08:06
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Thu, 07 October 2004 06:13
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	river	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:42
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Thu, 07 October 2004 06:52
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 06:56
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Thu, 07 October 2004 06:59
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 08:14
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	mynameisrodney	Thu, 07 October 2004 07:24
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	bathurst-91	Thu, 07 October 2004 08:14
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 08:26
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Thu, 07 October 2004 08:44
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Thu, 07 October 2004 08:47
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:19
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:43
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:50
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:52
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:53
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:54
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 11:11
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 08:55
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Norbie	Thu, 07 October 2004 08:50
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:01
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Norbie	Thu, 07 October 2004 22:15
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Fri, 08 October 2004 01:21
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Norbie	Fri, 08 October 2004 02:56
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Fri, 08 October 2004 05:00
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	BlackSupra	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:57
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:58
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:59
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	draven	Thu, 07 October 2004 11:25
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	lang	Thu, 07 October 2004 16:10
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	mynameisrodney	Thu, 07 October 2004 13:11
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	draven	Thu, 07 October 2004 13:54
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Shraka	Thu, 07 October 2004 13:41
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Thu, 07 October 2004 14:02
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	draven	Thu, 07 October 2004 14:09
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Thu, 07 October 2004 15:15
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	SupraPete	Fri, 08 October 2004 00:02
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Fri, 08 October 2004 00:33
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Norbie	Fri, 08 October 2004 00:41
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	SupraPete	Fri, 08 October 2004 01:40
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Fri, 08 October 2004 03:00
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	SupraPete	Fri, 08 October 2004 03:29
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Fri, 08 October 2004 04:38
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MFX_Neko_86	Fri, 08 October 2004 05:51
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	bathurst-91	Sun, 10 October 2004 02:19

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