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Nark Forums Junkie Location: Cabramatta, NSW Registered: May 2002	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally! Fri, 08 October 2004 01:21 Norbie wrote on Fri, 08 October 2004 08:15 Either there's something wrong with your PC or you run a shiteload of stuff! It takes me no more than 3 minutes to be fully functional after booting my PC. I run a shitload of things. Development IDEs, browsers with links to APIs, management consoles, local servers, lots of shit. Norbie wrote on Fri, 08 October 2004 08:15 Apparently it's only "buggy and unreliable" for you Nark. And the rest of the people who have posted their problems on this thread. It is [b]not[\b] a reliable OS because Micro$haft's QA is virtually non-existant. Norbie wrote on Fri, 08 October 2004 08:15 As for a development platform, I work in an office with 20 developers, all using VS.NET 2003 on XP Professional, and we're currently putting the finishing touches on the largest .NET rollout undertaken in this country. We give our PC's more of a hammering than just about anyone with the amount of crap we have to run, but none of us have to reboot on a regular basis... definitely not once a day! My PC has been up and running all week and shows no sign of any problems. If your experience is different to this there's obviously something wrong, but you're taking the easy way out and "blaming Microsoft". The problem with that approach is you'll never find a solution to your actual problem! Funny how this problem has occurred in the last three projects that I've worked in (at three different companies). BTW, I never said anyone had to reboot once a day. By a week though, my system's performance has decreased enough for me to warrant a reboot. This is a significant problem which should not occur in a properly memory managed OS. Norbie wrote on Fri, 08 October 2004 08:15 What an absolute load of tripe. Have you ever managed a room full of Windows servers in a large production environment? I have, and very few of the boxes I managed performed a single task (what a waste that would be!), and many were at constant >80% load. None required reboots because of OS problems - if they did there would be many many fingers pointing at me and asking difficult questions! I don't think that's an industry norm for Windoze boxes. Granted, the typical Windoze admin doesn't even need to know how to type let alone keep a system humming properly... Norbie wrote on Fri, 08 October 2004 08:15 Quote: Windoze on a server is a stupid idea. You get much better performance from the same hardware running Unix. Another unfounded generalisation. Even in the cases where unix does perform better (and it is better at some stuff) the performance differences are small. More important to many IT operations is the (relative) ease of management offered by Windows - and that's its biggest strength. If the Windows solution is slightly slower than the unix solution, purchasing faster hardware is cheap - but paying the ongoing costs of a support team for the unix solution is FAR from cheap. The performance differences aren't small. The schedulers and memory managers in Unices are way ahead of what can be found in Windows. Multitasking > task switching And how often do the Windows systems need to have patches applied compared to a Unix system? Kinda makes up for the expense of Unix admins methinks! Plus, as I stated earlier, the vast majority of Windows admins know shit (which greatly contributes to Windows's reputation as being unreliable). SupraPete wrote on Fri, 08 October 2004 10:02 Nark, I don't know where you fit in. Maybe number 7? I think #4 is close, except that I'd be banging my head against the wall... [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Wed, 06 October 2004 09:40
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Mr DOHC	Wed, 06 October 2004 09:49
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Wed, 06 October 2004 09:58
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Mr DOHC	Wed, 06 October 2004 10:02
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Wed, 06 October 2004 10:06
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	THE WITZL	Wed, 06 October 2004 10:05
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Wed, 06 October 2004 10:07
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Wed, 06 October 2004 10:09
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	stumpy	Wed, 06 October 2004 10:12
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Cool1	Wed, 06 October 2004 10:19
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Wed, 06 October 2004 10:25
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Wed, 06 October 2004 13:09
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Cool1	Wed, 06 October 2004 13:20
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Wed, 06 October 2004 13:24
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	EvilJack	Wed, 06 October 2004 12:25
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	SupraPete	Wed, 06 October 2004 14:06
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Wed, 06 October 2004 14:13
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Norbie	Wed, 06 October 2004 23:40
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 00:32
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	SupraPete	Thu, 07 October 2004 00:48
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 01:19
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Joshstix	Thu, 07 October 2004 02:11
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 02:31
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Norbie	Thu, 07 October 2004 03:10
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	rthy	Thu, 07 October 2004 03:17
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	river	Thu, 07 October 2004 06:03
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Thu, 07 October 2004 06:05
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	SupraPete	Thu, 07 October 2004 03:31
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 04:04
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Norbie	Thu, 07 October 2004 05:15
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	SupraPete	Thu, 07 October 2004 01:07
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Norbie	Thu, 07 October 2004 01:59
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Joshstix	Thu, 07 October 2004 02:16
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Bradelz	Thu, 07 October 2004 02:30
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	lyle-act	Thu, 07 October 2004 02:37
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Thu, 07 October 2004 02:55
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	AE86slut	Thu, 07 October 2004 03:09
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Thu, 07 October 2004 03:17
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Thu, 07 October 2004 04:58
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 06:46
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Norbie	Thu, 07 October 2004 06:59
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 08:06
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Thu, 07 October 2004 06:13
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	river	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:42
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Thu, 07 October 2004 06:52
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 06:56
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Thu, 07 October 2004 06:59
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 08:14
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	mynameisrodney	Thu, 07 October 2004 07:24
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	bathurst-91	Thu, 07 October 2004 08:14
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 08:26
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Thu, 07 October 2004 08:44
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Thu, 07 October 2004 08:47
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:19
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:43
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:50
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:52
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:53
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:54
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 11:11
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 08:55
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Norbie	Thu, 07 October 2004 08:50
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:01
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Norbie	Thu, 07 October 2004 22:15
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Fri, 08 October 2004 01:21
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Norbie	Fri, 08 October 2004 02:56
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Fri, 08 October 2004 05:00
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	BlackSupra	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:57
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:58
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Thu, 07 October 2004 09:59
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	draven	Thu, 07 October 2004 11:25
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	lang	Thu, 07 October 2004 16:10
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	mynameisrodney	Thu, 07 October 2004 13:11
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	draven	Thu, 07 October 2004 13:54
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Shraka	Thu, 07 October 2004 13:41
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MR 1JZ	Thu, 07 October 2004 14:02
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	draven	Thu, 07 October 2004 14:09
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Thu, 07 October 2004 15:15
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	SupraPete	Fri, 08 October 2004 00:02
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	justcallmefrank	Fri, 08 October 2004 00:33
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Norbie	Fri, 08 October 2004 00:41
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	SupraPete	Fri, 08 October 2004 01:40
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Fri, 08 October 2004 03:00
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	SupraPete	Fri, 08 October 2004 03:29
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	Nark	Fri, 08 October 2004 04:38
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	MFX_Neko_86	Fri, 08 October 2004 05:51
	Re: Want to rip microsoft off? Legally!	bathurst-91	Sun, 10 October 2004 02:19

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