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Re: ITBs & Port X-Sectional Areas + Lengths : Your Thoughts.... Wed, 13 October 2004 13:05 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Just as an aside, with my 2JZGE running 48mm throttles, extractors and standard internals, the peak power shifted up the rev range. Peak power is made at 5500rpm with the standard motor, yet mine peaked at 66-6700 (but sharply dropped off thereafter). The best gains were with the torque - tractive effort (as a surrogate of torque) was flat from 3000 right thru to 6000 rpm. The distance from the valve to the throttle plate is approximately 250mm (80 + 170), and the distance from the throttle plate to the bellmouth is 120mm. I didn't deliberately pick these - it's just how it worked out with the bits I had.

I haven't played with throttle diameters, but I suppose if you really wanted, we could put it on a dyno and you could see what the pressure drop across the throttles is. For what it is worth, that 400hp 2JZGE runs 55mm throttles. I don't have enough space in the engine bay to lengthen the trumpets without modifying the inner guard.

Anyway come have a look when you get here.
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Read Message   ITBs & Port X-Sectional Areas + Lengths : Your Thoughts.... ed_ma61Mon, 11 October 2004 14:59
Read Message   Re: ITBs & Port X-Sectional Areas + Lengths : Your Thoughts.... oldcorollasMon, 11 October 2004 15:13
Read Message   Re: ITBs & Port X-Sectional Areas + Lengths : Your Thoughts.... ed_ma61Mon, 11 October 2004 15:16
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Read Message   Re: ITBs & Port X-Sectional Areas + Lengths : Your Thoughts.... bbaacchhyyMon, 11 October 2004 21:25
Read Message   Re: ITBs & Port X-Sectional Areas + Lengths : Your Thoughts.... takaiMon, 11 October 2004 21:43
Read Message   Re: ITBs & Port X-Sectional Areas + Lengths : Your Thoughts.... bbaacchhyyMon, 11 October 2004 22:15
Read Message   Re: ITBs & Port X-Sectional Areas + Lengths : Your Thoughts.... Steve_ReynoldsMon, 11 October 2004 23:10
Read Message   Re: ITBs & Port X-Sectional Areas + Lengths : Your Thoughts.... gianttomatoMon, 11 October 2004 23:22
Read Message   Re: ITBs & Port X-Sectional Areas + Lengths : Your Thoughts.... Ben WilsonTue, 12 October 2004 05:25
Read Message   Re: ITBs & Port X-Sectional Areas + Lengths : Your Thoughts....  gianttomatoWed, 13 October 2004 13:05
Read Message   Re: ITBs & Port X-Sectional Areas + Lengths : Your Thoughts.... thechucksterWed, 13 October 2004 13:38
Read Message   Re: ITBs & Port X-Sectional Areas + Lengths : Your Thoughts.... oldcorollasWed, 13 October 2004 13:51
Read Message   Re: ITBs & Port X-Sectional Areas + Lengths : Your Thoughts.... ed_ma61Wed, 13 October 2004 14:45
Read Message   Re: ITBs & Port X-Sectional Areas + Lengths : Your Thoughts.... Bill SherwoodWed, 13 October 2004 14:48
Read Message   Re: ITBs & Port X-Sectional Areas + Lengths : Your Thoughts.... ed_ma61Wed, 13 October 2004 15:04
Read Message   Re: ITBs & Port X-Sectional Areas + Lengths : Your Thoughts.... ed_ma61Wed, 13 October 2004 14:58
Read Message   Re: ITBs & Port X-Sectional Areas + Lengths : Your Thoughts.... Bill SherwoodWed, 13 October 2004 15:06
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Read Message   Re: ITBs & Port X-Sectional Areas + Lengths : Your Thoughts.... Bill SherwoodWed, 13 October 2004 15:40
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