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Re: ITBs & Port X-Sectional Areas + Lengths : Your Thoughts.... Thu, 14 October 2004 15:17 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
FWDboy wrote on Fri, 15 October 2004 00:51

So what is more important in calcuating an approximate redline - the peak piston speed or the average piston speed? Surely there are more important factors though, like skirt length, oil/compression ring surface area, harmonics/rod strength???



Average piston speed, though as far as I know the shorter the rod (I.e. rod-to-stroke ratio) the higher the piston accelerations for a given stroke. So in that respect a longer rod should be easier on the pistons.

As far as the limiting factor, it's often the rod bolts. Twin-cam multi-valve engines often aren't limited by the valve gear with regard to max revs as they'er much lighter than a two-valve, and even more than a push-rod engine.
Some engines get bad harmonic in the cranks at certain revs, so that's an area to stay away from, others might even have the oil pump fail before anything else.
But for our purposes it's usually the rod bolts.

Always change them, every rebuild.
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Read Message   ITBs & Port X-Sectional Areas + Lengths : Your Thoughts.... ed_ma61Mon, 11 October 2004 14:59
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