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May 2002
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Re: Usable RPM range
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Thu, 17 October 2002 13:34
 
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I already conceded that the 22R is a better engine
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What's the problem then?? I know... It's the 'slightly' bit  . 18RC,65kw vs 22RC,75KW- 10Kw's and a bucket load of torque is not a slight difference. Besides, you have a better base line to start with which means you have an extra 10Kw which you don't have to look for. But your opinion is because, your comparing a standard 22RE to a Standard 1GGTE, which would have slightly more torque but a heap more Rpm, which does to give you your 153 odd Kw's, so really your opinion doesn't count(Biased). I can't blame you for think a 22R is a POS, after driving a 1GGTE. Again look at the standard base figure of a 1G to play with. Of course most people will choose it, but others do like to be different and are forunate to have enough cash to 'waste' their money to match power outputs with other hi-performance variants with so called 'inferior' engines, but at this point, does this make them inferior? Others, such as myself are stuck due to rules with those type of engines, why I run a worked 7AFE (125Kw) Not a worked 20V 4AGE(170+kw). But once decent parts are put in the first time, rebuilding them does get cheaper...
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I'm just saying it's not a good enough upgrade to justify the effort
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Hmm.. well on the restrictions MTS has:
18RC- Already has, Not as good as 22R (You did conceed)
18RG- Hard to get now, and cannot afford
22R - Readily available, easiest conversion,plenty of parts,
No fabrication, except for exhaust and/or electrics
(Version dependent)
1GGTE or ZE- GOTO 18RG comment
1/2JZGTE- GOTO 18RG comment
Well in your case, 22R -> 1GGTE, I can understand where your coming from (bang for bucks), but IMO, any engine or car can be improved, it's only what avenue you wish to take. In MTS's case, with the list above, is exactly how I personally go about justify any projects. ie look at the options and price them up.
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You are correct, however it was only availble in commercial vehicles which have lots more room in the engine bay. Try to slot one into a LHD Celica and you will have problems.
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Every conversion has their problems.... and I really can't say I have fitted a 22RTE to a LHD Celica, So I need to be enlightened 
Norbie,
I know what your opinion is of the 22R is (ie POS), and I'm not trying to change that. I'm just trying to give a guy some food for thought with the budget he's got, which I think this thread has done quite well, now it's up to him to make the decision. A IMO, the 18RC is worst than the 22R.
MTS,
Here's all our opinion's and options, it's up to you to do some research in to what you want and try to achieve within your budget.
Mad85,
Where there's a 22R convo on, I knew you'd have to show up at sometime 
Draven,
You'll have to pull the gearbox out and have a look, cause I've driven many cars and had cars of the same model feel very different in the pedals, gearshifting, etc. That's the only way to be 100% sure.
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Norbie | Thu, 17 October 2002 06:31 |
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Johnny | Thu, 17 October 2002 13:34 |
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