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quest Regular Location: u.s.a. south Registered: April 2004	Re: 4A: G vs F heads Tue, 26 October 2004 15:36 I dunno why people get all hung up on head flow and hp numbers. What does it translate to in 'real world' performance ? What level of performance can u not attain with a 4agte, say in a rolla, that a F head will get u ? Not one bit, I'd bet. Folks always drool over honda cylinder head design. Turbocharged, u see lopsided hp vs torque figures, even more dramatic than n.a. U can have 500hp 2.0L street cars with tq just over 300, or 600hp and 370tq, for example.... great if you're into bragging about your dyno sheets. The only thing that buys you is extended rpm range... the high hp cars are NO faster than same weight, lower hp cars making the same tq (once geared right).... based on my everyday observations. As renowned engine builder John Ligenfelter said, "nah, hp only sells motors, but tq will win u the race" [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	4A: G vs F heads	Henn	Thu, 21 October 2004 13:47
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Norbie	Fri, 22 October 2004 00:06
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	rob_RA40	Fri, 22 October 2004 00:09
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	b1gb3n	Fri, 22 October 2004 02:26
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	rob_RA40	Fri, 22 October 2004 04:51
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	b1gb3n	Fri, 22 October 2004 06:15
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Bill Sherwood	Fri, 22 October 2004 04:01
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	EVOSTi	Fri, 22 October 2004 06:15
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	ae95	Fri, 22 October 2004 06:19
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	SEXY 16	Fri, 22 October 2004 06:41
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	wuzah?	Fri, 22 October 2004 10:51
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	NuGeN	Fri, 22 October 2004 11:41
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Henn	Fri, 22 October 2004 13:34
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Bill Sherwood	Fri, 22 October 2004 14:16
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Henn	Fri, 22 October 2004 15:13
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	cwhelan	Mon, 25 October 2004 01:59
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	drift86levin	Mon, 25 October 2004 03:03
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	b1gb3n	Mon, 25 October 2004 07:53
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	takai	Wed, 27 October 2004 21:52
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	SEXY 16	Mon, 25 October 2004 09:23
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Bill Sherwood	Mon, 25 October 2004 10:09
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	SEXY 16	Mon, 25 October 2004 21:27
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Johnny	Tue, 26 October 2004 02:27
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Bill Sherwood	Tue, 26 October 2004 02:57
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Shraka	Tue, 26 October 2004 03:02
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Bill Sherwood	Tue, 26 October 2004 03:42
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Norbie	Tue, 26 October 2004 03:33
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	mrshin	Tue, 26 October 2004 04:15
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Shraka	Tue, 26 October 2004 04:53
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Bill Sherwood	Tue, 26 October 2004 05:04
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	b1gb3n	Tue, 26 October 2004 05:04
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Bill Sherwood	Tue, 26 October 2004 06:28
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Shraka	Tue, 26 October 2004 06:45
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	mrshin	Tue, 26 October 2004 06:17
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Norbie	Tue, 26 October 2004 06:51
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Shraka	Tue, 26 October 2004 07:25
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Bill Sherwood	Tue, 26 October 2004 07:53
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Johnny	Tue, 26 October 2004 10:49
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	mrshin	Tue, 26 October 2004 14:17
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	oldcorollas	Tue, 26 October 2004 14:27
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	mrshin	Tue, 26 October 2004 14:36
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	quest	Tue, 26 October 2004 15:36
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	b1gb3n	Tue, 26 October 2004 15:48
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	4DaDrift	Tue, 26 October 2004 15:50
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Shraka	Wed, 27 October 2004 00:08
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Bill Sherwood	Wed, 27 October 2004 01:49
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	oldcorollas	Wed, 27 October 2004 15:22
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Tofuboi	Tue, 26 October 2004 21:53
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Shraka	Wed, 27 October 2004 02:02
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	quest	Wed, 27 October 2004 06:30
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	quest	Wed, 27 October 2004 06:59
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	quest	Wed, 27 October 2004 07:21
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	oldcorollas	Wed, 27 October 2004 07:34
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Henn	Wed, 27 October 2004 06:58
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Shraka	Wed, 27 October 2004 07:31
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	takai	Wed, 27 October 2004 07:58
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	quest	Wed, 27 October 2004 14:32
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	oldcorollas	Wed, 27 October 2004 15:08
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Tats	Wed, 27 October 2004 23:26
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Johnny	Thu, 28 October 2004 00:48
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Shraka	Thu, 28 October 2004 02:21
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Johnny	Thu, 28 October 2004 03:44
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Bill Sherwood	Thu, 28 October 2004 04:30
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	b1gb3n	Thu, 28 October 2004 05:24
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	koen	Thu, 28 October 2004 04:52
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Norbie	Thu, 28 October 2004 05:09
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	justcallmefrank	Thu, 28 October 2004 05:24
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Bill Sherwood	Thu, 28 October 2004 05:17
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Bill Sherwood	Thu, 28 October 2004 05:29
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	oldcorollas	Tue, 02 November 2004 08:10
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Shraka	Thu, 28 October 2004 07:05
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	da_horse	Thu, 28 October 2004 08:36
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	justcallmefrank	Thu, 28 October 2004 08:45
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Shraka	Mon, 01 November 2004 03:10
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	justcallmefrank	Mon, 01 November 2004 03:11
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	Shraka	Mon, 01 November 2004 03:18
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	86tt	Mon, 01 November 2004 14:15
	Re: 4A: G vs F heads	takai	Tue, 02 November 2004 07:41

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