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Re: Head flow and flame propegation issues in turbocharged cars Mon, 01 November 2004 03:54 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Then why do modern N/A engines tend to have about the same power of older N/A engines, even though the new ones run variable timing and higher compression? Shouldn't more power follow from more efficiency?
would say that, in general, modern engines have more power per displacement than old engines. Alot of it is to do with the way modern engines are tuned, it's generally geared towards good emissions and good fuel economy. Also you have to take into account that modern engines have WAY better torque curves than older engines...to get good power just requires alot of air flow (think big ports, cams etc) alot of older engines were totally gutless outside of their good torque range, 90% of torque was seen over only 1000rpm or so rather than modern engines where 90% of torque is usually available over a 4000rpm range (at least).

That's just the half of it though.

The S2000 for example puts out 170+kW from a 2.0 litre engine and can still produce a modern level of emissions, that is one HELL of a feat.

As for it's combustion chamber shape - good question Smile

afaik modern engines are designed to be efficient over a big rpm range, it's part of the whole 'economy' thing.

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But you would think that if more of the fuel was burnt, you would end up with more power... anyone have proof of this?
Generally yes, if the combustion is more complete then this would usually be the case...I think... Smile
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