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ke382TG Forums Junkie Registered: May 2002	Re: Who has a 4agte? Mon, 08 November 2004 00:22 Quote: Just wondering if anyone has any advice on running a stock GZE computer to run certain power, and what are the pros and cons of an aftermarket one? I ran the stock ECU (AFM crank angle sensed version) on my 4AGTE for quite a while and it went well (about 154rwkw on 15psi). The benefits I gained from going to an after market ECU: *a little more peak power and a massive gain through the mid range, increase in torque *the after market ECU allowed the use of 440cc injectors (7MGTE) *allowed the removal of the vane type AFM *better throttle control (I can only assume the reason may be attributed to the AFM removal??? When the standard ECU was used it was difficult to control the boost with the throttle i.e. it would want to be either "on" or "off" full boost. Now the throttle control is much better) *I didn't lose any of the factory ECU features eg cold start, fuel economy etc, my aftermarket ECU appears to be well tuned and is as good in these areas and better in others. I am happy with my choice of changing over. The cons of aftermarket ECU's are commonly known eg. meeting emmissions standards (not a problem for us here in Canberra at this stage), getting it correctly tuned, the cost of the initial tune etc etc. Quote: Would a T28 roller be beneficial as opposed to a ball bearing? Roller bearing = ball bearing the two names are thrown around for the same thing. Turbos come with either ball bearing (roller bearing) or bushings. Ball bearing turbos have the advantage of faster spool up and in most cases are generally of newer design than there bushing type counterparts. If I was buying a turbo now and had the cash I would go ball bearing, but at the same time, my bushing type one is working well and spools up nice and quickly. NB a friend of mine is currently building up a 4AGTE with a brand new ball bearing T28 so I will be keen to see how it performs on the road in comparison to mine. [Report message to a moderator]

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	Who has a 4agte?	white86	Sun, 31 October 2004 00:51
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	Sprinta	Sun, 31 October 2004 04:28
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	NVD05X	Sun, 31 October 2004 06:14
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	fade-e	Sun, 31 October 2004 09:30
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	Gr33nM0nk3y	Mon, 01 November 2004 09:27
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	10sec_rx7	Fri, 05 November 2004 02:36
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	THE WITZL	Mon, 01 November 2004 09:38
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	Spanktown	Mon, 01 November 2004 11:18
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	optionUP	Mon, 01 November 2004 12:55
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	fade-e	Mon, 01 November 2004 13:17
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	optionUP	Mon, 01 November 2004 14:07
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	fade-e	Mon, 01 November 2004 21:21
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	Spanktown	Mon, 01 November 2004 14:14
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	optionUP	Mon, 01 November 2004 14:18
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	white86	Mon, 01 November 2004 14:22
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	white86	Mon, 01 November 2004 14:28
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	Spanktown	Mon, 01 November 2004 14:29
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	white86	Mon, 01 November 2004 14:30
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	optionUP	Mon, 01 November 2004 15:11
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	joyride	Mon, 01 November 2004 17:57
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	feral4mr2	Mon, 01 November 2004 21:42
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	TRD_Celica	Mon, 01 November 2004 22:40
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	white86	Tue, 02 November 2004 00:25
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	Jag7799	Tue, 02 November 2004 00:46
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	white86	Tue, 02 November 2004 01:00
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	optionUP	Tue, 02 November 2004 01:27
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	Jag7799	Tue, 02 November 2004 03:18
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	white86	Tue, 02 November 2004 01:30
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	YOGI8U	Tue, 02 November 2004 01:42
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	YOGI8U	Tue, 02 November 2004 01:44
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	Necros	Tue, 02 November 2004 04:16
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	feral4mr2	Tue, 02 November 2004 13:49
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	optionUP	Tue, 02 November 2004 04:48
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	Jag7799	Tue, 02 November 2004 05:30
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	white86	Tue, 02 November 2004 05:01
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	EVOSTi	Tue, 02 November 2004 05:53
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	TE72_Turbo	Tue, 02 November 2004 10:22
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	Spanktown	Tue, 02 November 2004 10:31
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	Skein	Tue, 02 November 2004 11:36
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	white86	Tue, 02 November 2004 13:39
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	NVD05X	Wed, 03 November 2004 09:54
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	THE WITZL	Wed, 03 November 2004 12:00
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	white86	Wed, 03 November 2004 13:13
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	optionUP	Wed, 03 November 2004 15:52
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	bbaacchhyy	Wed, 03 November 2004 17:01
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	Jag7799	Wed, 03 November 2004 22:22
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	justcallmefrank	Thu, 04 November 2004 01:05
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	justcallmefrank	Wed, 03 November 2004 16:43
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	Necros	Wed, 03 November 2004 23:31
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ke382TG	Thu, 04 November 2004 01:59
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	optionUP	Thu, 04 November 2004 15:51
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	justcallmefrank	Fri, 05 November 2004 00:22
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	AE86Boy	Fri, 05 November 2004 01:01
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ke382TG	Fri, 05 November 2004 01:35
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	MYT-16V	Fri, 05 November 2004 09:51
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	TE72_Turbo	Fri, 05 November 2004 13:54
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	MYT-16V	Sat, 06 November 2004 10:34
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	white86	Sun, 07 November 2004 00:08
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	TE72_Turbo	Sun, 07 November 2004 06:05
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	white86	Sun, 07 November 2004 09:29
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	TE72_Turbo	Sun, 07 November 2004 09:44
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ae86slaver	Sun, 07 November 2004 23:35
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ke382TG	Mon, 08 November 2004 00:22
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	bathurst-91	Mon, 08 November 2004 03:22
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ae86slaver	Mon, 08 November 2004 00:46
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	monkeymajik	Mon, 08 November 2004 01:19
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	pjaw11sc	Mon, 08 November 2004 01:45
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ae86slaver	Mon, 08 November 2004 02:53
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ae86slaver	Mon, 08 November 2004 03:31
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	shinybluesteel	Mon, 08 November 2004 04:30
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ke382TG	Mon, 08 November 2004 04:37
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ae86slaver	Mon, 08 November 2004 04:58
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	EVOSTi	Mon, 08 November 2004 10:06
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ae86slaver	Mon, 08 November 2004 11:24
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	Spanktown	Mon, 08 November 2004 10:55
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	serge	Mon, 08 November 2004 11:24
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ae86slaver	Mon, 08 November 2004 11:28
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	serge	Mon, 08 November 2004 11:34
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ae86slaver	Mon, 08 November 2004 11:46
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	serge	Mon, 08 November 2004 11:57
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ae86slaver	Mon, 08 November 2004 12:12
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	serge	Mon, 08 November 2004 12:20
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	monkeymajik	Mon, 08 November 2004 12:40
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	D1-SPEC	Mon, 08 November 2004 14:13
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	joyride	Mon, 08 November 2004 20:48
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	EVLGTZ	Tue, 09 November 2004 00:13
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ae86slaver	Tue, 09 November 2004 05:28
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ae86drift	Tue, 09 November 2004 05:46
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	EVOSTi	Tue, 09 November 2004 06:33
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	fatmr2	Tue, 09 November 2004 07:15
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	AE82-GZE	Tue, 09 November 2004 11:59
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	EVLGTZ	Tue, 09 November 2004 19:08
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	TE72_Turbo	Wed, 10 November 2004 00:42
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	BigWorm	Tue, 09 November 2004 14:23
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	joyride	Tue, 09 November 2004 21:14
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ae86slaver	Tue, 09 November 2004 22:46
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	andrewa	Wed, 10 November 2004 00:33
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	EVLGTZ	Wed, 10 November 2004 00:57
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	white86	Wed, 10 November 2004 09:25
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	TE72_Turbo	Wed, 10 November 2004 09:52
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	Spanktown	Wed, 10 November 2004 12:28
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	4A-GTE	Wed, 10 November 2004 12:31
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	BigWorm	Wed, 10 November 2004 13:37
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	optionUP	Wed, 10 November 2004 13:53
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	BigWorm	Wed, 10 November 2004 14:41
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	EVOSTi	Thu, 11 November 2004 06:00
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	TE72_Turbo	Thu, 11 November 2004 06:44
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	feral4mr2	Thu, 11 November 2004 09:03
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	TE72_Turbo	Thu, 11 November 2004 09:46
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	feral4mr2	Thu, 11 November 2004 13:29
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	TE72_Turbo	Thu, 11 November 2004 13:53
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	feral4mr2	Thu, 11 November 2004 14:09
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	TE72_Turbo	Thu, 11 November 2004 14:17
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ae86slaver	Thu, 11 November 2004 10:42
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	Spanktown	Thu, 11 November 2004 11:27
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	AE86Boy	Fri, 12 November 2004 01:42
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	justcallmefrank	Fri, 12 November 2004 02:08
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	white86	Fri, 12 November 2004 02:49
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ae86slaver	Fri, 12 November 2004 04:56
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	optionUP	Fri, 12 November 2004 05:00
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	TE72_Turbo	Fri, 12 November 2004 07:22
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	white86	Fri, 12 November 2004 05:03
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ae86slaver	Fri, 12 November 2004 05:11
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	AE82-GZE	Fri, 12 November 2004 07:17
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	monkeymajik	Fri, 12 November 2004 12:42
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	white86	Fri, 12 November 2004 23:48
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	feral4mr2	Sat, 13 November 2004 12:37
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	Spanktown	Sat, 13 November 2004 03:41
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	white86	Sat, 13 November 2004 03:59
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	fatmr2	Sat, 13 November 2004 05:54
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	white86	Sat, 13 November 2004 06:00
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	fatmr2	Sat, 13 November 2004 06:07
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	fatmr2	Sat, 13 November 2004 12:45
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	TE72_Turbo	Sun, 14 November 2004 05:04
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	fatmr2	Sun, 14 November 2004 08:35
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	feral4mr2	Sun, 14 November 2004 13:49
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	TE72_Turbo	Sun, 14 November 2004 23:00
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	86tt	Wed, 17 November 2004 03:46
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	TE72_Turbo	Wed, 17 November 2004 04:10
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	86tt	Wed, 17 November 2004 04:17
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	TE72_Turbo	Wed, 17 November 2004 04:23
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	86tt	Wed, 17 November 2004 04:32
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	86tt	Wed, 17 November 2004 04:34
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	TE72_Turbo	Wed, 17 November 2004 04:53
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	86tt	Wed, 17 November 2004 05:03
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	TE72_Turbo	Wed, 17 November 2004 05:10
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	86tt	Wed, 17 November 2004 05:18
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	TE72_Turbo	Wed, 17 November 2004 10:02
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	86tt	Wed, 17 November 2004 10:16
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	TE72_Turbo	Wed, 17 November 2004 10:40
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	86tt	Wed, 17 November 2004 10:51
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ae86slaver	Wed, 17 November 2004 05:37
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	86tt	Wed, 17 November 2004 05:53
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ae86slaver	Wed, 17 November 2004 23:38
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	86tt	Thu, 18 November 2004 01:37
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ae86slaver	Thu, 18 November 2004 02:30
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	TE72_Turbo	Thu, 18 November 2004 02:57
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ae86slaver	Thu, 18 November 2004 03:29
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	TE72_Turbo	Thu, 18 November 2004 03:41
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ae86slaver	Thu, 18 November 2004 03:56
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	TE72_Turbo	Thu, 18 November 2004 05:18
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ae86slaver	Thu, 18 November 2004 05:35
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	86tt	Thu, 18 November 2004 14:09
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ae86slaver	Fri, 19 November 2004 03:07
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	86tt	Fri, 19 November 2004 03:28
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ae86slaver	Fri, 19 November 2004 04:17
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	fatmr2	Fri, 19 November 2004 07:34
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	86tt	Fri, 19 November 2004 12:30
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	NVD05X	Fri, 19 November 2004 12:29
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	TE72_Turbo	Fri, 19 November 2004 13:06
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	Rallystanza	Sat, 20 November 2004 00:39
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	NVD05X	Fri, 19 November 2004 12:34
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	86tt	Fri, 19 November 2004 12:46
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ae86slaver	Fri, 19 November 2004 13:03
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	86tt	Fri, 19 November 2004 13:57
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	fatmr2	Fri, 19 November 2004 20:50
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	86tt	Sat, 20 November 2004 02:17
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	Big T	Sun, 03 July 2005 11:51
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	feral4mr2	Sun, 03 July 2005 12:35
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	TE72_Turbo	Sat, 20 November 2004 06:49
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	86tt	Sat, 20 November 2004 07:36
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	TE72_Turbo	Sat, 20 November 2004 11:00
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	NVD05X	Sat, 20 November 2004 07:45
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	86tt	Sat, 20 November 2004 15:58
	Attn: TE72_Turbo	86tt	Sun, 21 November 2004 07:03
	Re: Attn: TE72_Turbo	ae86slaver	Sun, 21 November 2004 07:34
	Re: Attn: TE72_Turbo	86tt	Sun, 21 November 2004 11:59
	Re: Attn: TE72_Turbo	ae86slaver	Tue, 23 November 2004 09:40
	Re: Attn: TE72_Turbo	86tt	Tue, 23 November 2004 12:37
	Re: Attn: TE72_Turbo	TE72_Turbo	Wed, 24 November 2004 11:50
	Re: Attn: TE72_Turbo	86tt	Wed, 24 November 2004 22:27
	Re: Attn: TE72_Turbo	TE72_Turbo	Thu, 25 November 2004 02:49
	Re: Attn: TE72_Turbo	86tt	Thu, 25 November 2004 13:08
	Re: Attn: TE72_Turbo	TE72_Turbo	Fri, 26 November 2004 08:43
	Re: Attn: TE72_Turbo	86tt	Fri, 26 November 2004 10:29
	Re: Attn: TE72_Turbo	TE72_Turbo	Fri, 26 November 2004 13:18
	Re: Attn: TE72_Turbo	86tt	Fri, 26 November 2004 14:06
	Re: Attn: TE72_Turbo	TE72_Turbo	Sat, 27 November 2004 00:35
	Re: Attn: TE72_Turbo	86tt	Sat, 27 November 2004 03:03
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	TE72_Turbo	Sun, 21 November 2004 09:19
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	mrshin	Tue, 23 November 2004 13:07
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	86tt	Tue, 23 November 2004 13:15
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ae86slaver	Tue, 23 November 2004 22:19
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ae86slaver	Tue, 01 February 2005 06:08
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	BigWorm	Tue, 01 February 2005 06:48
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ROLLA GTi	Sun, 06 February 2005 12:23
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	TE72_Turbo	Mon, 07 February 2005 11:54
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	juzzo84	Tue, 01 February 2005 06:56
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ae86slaver	Tue, 01 February 2005 10:06
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	TE72_Turbo	Tue, 01 February 2005 10:09
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	THE WITZL	Tue, 01 February 2005 10:54
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	feral4mr2	Tue, 01 February 2005 12:28
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	white86	Tue, 01 February 2005 23:24
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	TE72_Turbo	Wed, 02 February 2005 15:04
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	white86	Wed, 02 February 2005 23:57
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	monkeymajik	Wed, 02 February 2005 15:12
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ke382TG	Thu, 03 February 2005 00:35
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ROLLA GTi	Mon, 07 February 2005 07:49
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	4agte	Mon, 07 February 2005 08:05
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	feral4mr2	Mon, 07 February 2005 08:52
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	ROLLA GTi	Mon, 07 February 2005 14:12
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	monkeymajik	Mon, 07 February 2005 15:50
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	DRFT - 86	Sat, 26 November 2005 13:12
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	feral4mr2	Sun, 27 November 2005 00:49
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	DRFT - 86	Sun, 27 November 2005 02:04
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	tim123c	Sun, 27 November 2005 03:43
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	feral4mr2	Sun, 27 November 2005 13:02
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	tim123c	Mon, 28 November 2005 01:37
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	fatmr2	Mon, 28 November 2005 05:38
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	THE WITZL	Mon, 28 November 2005 06:19
	Re: Who has a 4agte?	tim123c	Mon, 28 November 2005 11:45

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