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Location: South Australia
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Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?
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Mon, 15 November 2004 01:47

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The point is pedestrians shouldn't be getting hit by cars in the first place. It's a pretty unco-ordinated thing to do.
I don't know how high a speed you are talking about Jag7799, but really as soon as someone is hit at about 50km/h+ they are either dead or probably disabled for life. Being 'cut up' is probably going to be the least of their worries compared to say spinal/neck injury - although admittedly blood loss and internal trauma could cause complications (ie loss of oxygen to the brain, permanent brain damage etc).
Seriously, how far are we willing to go to make cars safe? At the moment we live in a serious paradox, we want to make cars safe, but we don't want to sacrifice the convenience of risk (ie higher speed travel). So we keep coming up with pissweak band-aid solutions that don't change anything. Example look at how heavy a car is these days - because of 'safety' features these things regularly tip the scales at 1200+kg even for a little 5 door hatchback.
Do you have any idea how much that extra momentum is going to screw a pedestrian up? Even with 'crumple' zones (which do sweet FA in regards to pedestrian safety they are designed to reduce impulse forces in the case of car-car collision only, or maybe car-elephant), the pedestrian is going to get bounced off into next week, or orbit. (well actually it's more likely that the pedestrian's internals will absorb the impact resulting in them being 'crushed', meanwhile the 'body' will simply roll off the bonnet when the car finally comes to rest, but I wouldn't want to scare anyone)
If we REALLY wanted to do something about road safety then we would all be wearing helmets when driving (facial and cranial injuries constitute the majority of injuries in accidents) we would be wearing harnesses (and sacrifice rear seating capacity), nomex driving suits and as pedestrians we would wear full leathers, helment, HANS device and skidders on elbows on knees so that when we do get hit we have half a chance of surviving as a vegetable.
But the fact of the matter is, no one wants to change anything because it's all too "inconvenient". Even getting aome advanced driver training is too out of the way for most of us (I can't talk in that regard, I've never had any!)
Having said all this, I don't think pop-up headlights are that cool anyway. It's just annoying me that this is how we improve road safety. I mean this rule is going to make 1 in a 1000 (or some other large number, let's say 100) accidents 'less fatal'. Okay, maybe if I asked the family of that 1 in a 100th accident if it was worthwhile I would probably get an affirmative answer, but I still feel sorry for the 99 other familes who get shafted by complacant motoring/governing authorities.
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fractoid | Sun, 14 November 2004 10:19 |
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RWDboy | Sun, 14 November 2004 10:20 |
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ae86drift | Sun, 14 November 2004 10:22 |
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bathurst-91 | Sun, 14 November 2004 10:23 |
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pr1nce | Sun, 14 November 2004 10:27 |
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ZZT231 | Sun, 14 November 2004 10:36 |
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RWDboy | Sun, 14 November 2004 10:42 |
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Arch | Sun, 14 November 2004 11:16 |
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Hawk | Sun, 14 November 2004 22:37 |
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MR 1JZ | Sun, 14 November 2004 22:40 |
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Jag7799 | Sun, 14 November 2004 22:46 |
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draven | Sun, 14 November 2004 22:52 |
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Evil_Foetus | Mon, 15 November 2004 12:03 |
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RWDboy | Mon, 15 November 2004 01:47 |
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fractoid | Mon, 15 November 2004 01:54 |
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RAV-GT4 | Mon, 15 November 2004 03:18 |
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Jag7799 | Mon, 15 November 2004 03:19 |
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fractoid | Mon, 15 November 2004 03:53 |
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shaneblack | Tue, 16 November 2004 07:39 |
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toof | Mon, 15 November 2004 06:03 |
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RobST162 | Mon, 15 November 2004 07:26 |
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jackel | Mon, 15 November 2004 07:59 |
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justcallmefrank | Mon, 15 November 2004 08:02 |
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RobST162 | Mon, 15 November 2004 08:02 |
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EnFlaMEd | Mon, 15 November 2004 08:14 |
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Hawk | Mon, 15 November 2004 08:23 |
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Jag7799 | Mon, 15 November 2004 09:20 |
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RobST162 | Mon, 15 November 2004 09:25 |
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justcallmefrank | Mon, 15 November 2004 10:36 |
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Jag7799 | Mon, 15 November 2004 11:11 |
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justcallmefrank | Mon, 15 November 2004 11:47 |
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CrUZsida | Tue, 16 November 2004 00:37 |
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Jag7799 | Mon, 15 November 2004 11:13 |
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thechuckster | Mon, 15 November 2004 11:21 |
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RWDboy | Mon, 15 November 2004 12:35 |
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CrUZsida | Tue, 16 November 2004 00:39 |
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Jag7799 | Tue, 16 November 2004 00:42 |
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fractoid | Tue, 16 November 2004 01:12 |
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RWDboy | Tue, 16 November 2004 09:19 |
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fractoid | Tue, 16 November 2004 09:44 |
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RWDboy | Tue, 16 November 2004 13:59 |
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shaneblack | Wed, 17 November 2004 06:34 |
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fractoid | Wed, 17 November 2004 07:01 |
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RWDboy | Wed, 17 November 2004 07:13 |
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shaneblack | Thu, 18 November 2004 06:33 |
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b1gb3n | Thu, 18 November 2004 12:27 |
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RWDboy | Thu, 18 November 2004 16:18 |
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b1gb3n | Thu, 18 November 2004 17:47 |
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Toobs | Thu, 18 November 2004 22:15 |
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Hawk | Thu, 18 November 2004 22:54 |
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b1gb3n | Fri, 19 November 2004 06:30 |
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alliance_22 | Thu, 18 November 2004 23:23 |
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alliance_22 | Thu, 18 November 2004 23:27 |
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Toobs | Fri, 19 November 2004 00:30 |
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RWDboy | Fri, 19 November 2004 01:16 |
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