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Location: Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered: January 2003
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Re: Savage Understeer
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Mon, 15 November 2004 02:56

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Simon-AE86 wrote on Sat, 13 November 2004 02:27 | Seriously now, what is acctually wrong with cutting one or two coils off a spring providing that excessive heat is not used, providing they are still captive and that you have shocks that can acctually handle the increased spring rate and decreased spring travel rate?
can anyone acctually give me an answer to that?
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yes. a spring, be it coiled or otherwise, has a certain stiffness.
if you make the spring shorter, then for a given deflection, it will push back more...
ie, when you reduce the length of a coiled spring by cutting off coils, you increase the rate, since now the metal of the spring deforms more for a given total spring deflection.
you effectively turn the spring into a 'short stroke' version, as free length is less, and loaded deflection is also less. and as was stated earlier, they can become non-captive.
most springs ends are either flat, or the coils change shape at each end, so when you cut it, you alter that shape, and you will get local points of very high stress on the spring mounts, which can lead to spring mount failure = baad mmkay.
as for swaybars, increase size of swaybar increases weight transfer to outside wheel, and thus can lead to loss of traction (on that outside wheel) sooner. increase front swaybar = understeer, increase rear swaybar = oversteer.
Cya, Stewart
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ae86slaver | Fri, 12 November 2004 08:58 |
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ae86drift | Fri, 12 November 2004 14:09 |
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takai | Fri, 12 November 2004 13:15 |
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Simon-AE86 | Fri, 12 November 2004 15:27 |
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oldcorollas | Mon, 15 November 2004 02:56 |
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Sam_Q | Tue, 16 November 2004 21:48 |
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gianttomato | Tue, 16 November 2004 22:33 |
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davedave | Tue, 16 November 2004 22:33 |
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rob_RA40 | Sat, 13 November 2004 00:12 |
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rob_RA40 | Tue, 16 November 2004 22:26 |
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