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ke382TG
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Re: Getting power out of a 4AGE

Tue, 16 November 2004 02:53

There is a sure fire recipe for a 200kw plus 4AGTE (without 30psi of boost either), plenty of people on here have done it, many have driven them for a long time without problems and the good ones have done it without a laggy turbo Very Happy

Fark it's not that hard or expensive to get a 4AGTE to make some reasonably fun power, mine has a small turbo (T28 0.48 A/R exhaust housing), 2.5" exhaust and very thin FMIC and it makes 170rwkw (I know what I need to do to get more, but it's $$$ I don't want to spend at this stage, maybe later). My brothers 4AGTE made 205rwkw on less boost than mine, standard internals, stock 4AGZE cams etc. His just runs a more efficient FMIC, 3" exhaust and slightly larger turbo (his comes on full boost by just over 3000rpm, sooner than most low boost factory turbo cars).

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Even the T50 is a tight fit from memory

T50 is an easy fit and even bolts up to the factory locations (the TE27 Levin was a 2TG powered corolla with a T50 behind it) on the chassis, but with a 200rwkw engine the t50 is not a good choice Laughing

. The W series boxes are a tight fit though, but mine is in there (w58).

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As for 200rwkw, pretty easy.

4AGZE block
Bigport head
T28 S15 BB Turbo
FC3S 550cc Injectors
Decent IC
Decent exhaust manifold
Intake manifold w/o TVIS
267* Cams

A TA22 is in the build at the moment to the above specs here in Canberra, but using standard ZE cams and 440cc injectors and I have no doubt it will give 200rwkw a nudge.

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How about a 2L turbo motor? They arent too big, and shouldnt require a shitload of mods and money to get the power you want.

A few guys have done the SR20DET into KE20/25, tight fit, but the big problem is the steering rack has to go/ be modified etc. The 3SGTE would be cool, but is not a cheap option.

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You will need angrier cams to make a turbo capable of producing 200rwkw on a 1.6L engine less peaky/laggy.

Not true, my brothers 4AGTE turns over 200rwkw, comes on boost very hard and early in the RPM range and is using stock cams. A very smooth car to drive with a good power band, not too peaky, definitely not laggy.

Have a look at my KE25 in the readers ride section of this forum, do something similar but with a better turbo (something of newer design and slightly larger perhaps) and 3 inch exhaust and a better intercooler and I have no doubt that you will get to 200rwkw on less boost than I am to make 170rwkw.

Here is a link:

http://forums.toymods.org.au/index.php?t=msg&t h=39171&start=0&rid=204&S=4e935ca9204a 6bf7c6eede8a08155b0c

There is a bit of 28th hand gossip on what is capable and what various engines will perform like. Read between the lines and pay no attention to the heresay/rumour etc.

Good luck with the KE25, I am biased, but I reckon they are a cool little car and are not too common. I have no plans to get rid of mine any time soon Very Happy

Cheers.

PM if you have any questions about anything on the 4A/KE25 combo.

[Updated on: Tue, 16 November 2004 02:58]

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