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Albion Park, NSW
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Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?
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Wed, 17 November 2004 06:34
 
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The issue related to the twisting moment can be a valid argument but it depends on how you're hit. The human body is not a stiff thing and there is a great deal of flexability in the hips. So you need to take into account how much impact is taken by the legs and the joints to work out how much you are spun into the bonnet. That's assuming the pedestrian hasn't seen the car coming and tried to jump out of the way, in which case they can miss the bumper entirely and go straight onto the bonnet.
By worst case I was reffering to the car not slowing. If the car was slowing then firstly, you aren't hit at the full speed, and if it slows enough you won't go over, you'll roll back down. In this case you will have suffered less impact than the car not stopping where you keep going over the top. If you go over a car doing 60 that keeps going you will go over the top and this has to be worse than being hit by the car slowing down enough for you to not roll the whole way over.
I wasn't trying to say that you'll definately survive but rather that it depends on how you hit, that there is a reasonable chance and that you may possibly be suprised by the number of people that do survive being hit by a car.
And with the 4wd with or without roobars issue, the difference we're talking is in ms, not enough to make much difference to a person at that speed. Also that you will most likely go under a 4WD means that even in more low speed accidents they pose a far greater threat. Add that there are a signifigant number of 4WDs being driven through built up areas and the risk factor of being hit by a 4WD as opposed to the family sedan that could probably replace it for what use it's getting then the greatest reduction in pedestrian injuries could be achieved there. By comparison banning roo bars, or pop up headlights is nothing more than a dissmal attempt to make it look like something is being done, it will achieve a little but if they where serious then there's better places to start.
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fractoid | Sun, 14 November 2004 10:19 |
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ae86drift | Sun, 14 November 2004 10:22 |
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bathurst-91 | Sun, 14 November 2004 10:23 |
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pr1nce | Sun, 14 November 2004 10:27 |
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ZZT231 | Sun, 14 November 2004 10:36 |
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RWDboy | Sun, 14 November 2004 10:42 |
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Arch | Sun, 14 November 2004 11:16 |
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MR 1JZ | Sun, 14 November 2004 22:40 |
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draven | Sun, 14 November 2004 22:52 |
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Evil_Foetus | Mon, 15 November 2004 12:03 |
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RWDboy | Mon, 15 November 2004 01:47 |
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fractoid | Mon, 15 November 2004 01:54 |
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RAV-GT4 | Mon, 15 November 2004 03:18 |
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Jag7799 | Mon, 15 November 2004 03:19 |
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fractoid | Mon, 15 November 2004 03:53 |
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shaneblack | Tue, 16 November 2004 07:39 |
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toof | Mon, 15 November 2004 06:03 |
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RobST162 | Mon, 15 November 2004 07:26 |
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jackel | Mon, 15 November 2004 07:59 |
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justcallmefrank | Mon, 15 November 2004 08:02 |
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RobST162 | Mon, 15 November 2004 08:02 |
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EnFlaMEd | Mon, 15 November 2004 08:14 |
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Hawk | Mon, 15 November 2004 08:23 |
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Jag7799 | Mon, 15 November 2004 09:20 |
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RobST162 | Mon, 15 November 2004 09:25 |
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justcallmefrank | Mon, 15 November 2004 10:36 |
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Jag7799 | Mon, 15 November 2004 11:11 |
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justcallmefrank | Mon, 15 November 2004 11:47 |
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CrUZsida | Tue, 16 November 2004 00:37 |
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Jag7799 | Mon, 15 November 2004 11:13 |
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thechuckster | Mon, 15 November 2004 11:21 |
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RWDboy | Mon, 15 November 2004 12:35 |
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CrUZsida | Tue, 16 November 2004 00:39 |
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Jag7799 | Tue, 16 November 2004 00:42 |
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fractoid | Tue, 16 November 2004 01:12 |
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RWDboy | Tue, 16 November 2004 09:19 |
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fractoid | Tue, 16 November 2004 09:44 |
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RWDboy | Tue, 16 November 2004 13:59 |
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shaneblack | Wed, 17 November 2004 06:34 |
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fractoid | Wed, 17 November 2004 07:01 |
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RWDboy | Wed, 17 November 2004 07:13 |
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shaneblack | Thu, 18 November 2004 06:33 |
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b1gb3n | Thu, 18 November 2004 12:27 |
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RWDboy | Thu, 18 November 2004 16:18 |
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b1gb3n | Thu, 18 November 2004 17:47 |
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Toobs | Thu, 18 November 2004 22:15 |
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Hawk | Thu, 18 November 2004 22:54 |
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b1gb3n | Fri, 19 November 2004 06:30 |
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alliance_22 | Thu, 18 November 2004 23:23 |
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alliance_22 | Thu, 18 November 2004 23:27 |
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Toobs | Fri, 19 November 2004 00:30 |
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RWDboy | Fri, 19 November 2004 01:16 |
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