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RWDboy Forums Junkie Location: South Australia Registered: July 2002	Re: Savage Understeer Wed, 17 November 2004 06:52 Quote: could someone plz explain to me how making the rear shocks stiffer makes the car more neutral if its already oversteering? i would of figured more squat on the rear during cornering = more weight = more traction = less oversteer? Not quite right there. Shock absorbers are designed to damp the motion of the spring, thus they are part of the system that controls the RATE of weight transfer, not the actually amount of weight transfer itself. If you have two way adjustable shocks, for example, and you increase the damping on bump then you may find that the weight transfer to the outside wheel during the beginning of the corner will be more tolerable and thus less likely to cause oversteer (in the hands of the not-so-subtle corner entry type of driver). Of course this is dependent also on how the fronts behave, and how the sway bar plays it's roll and what kind of rebound damping you have on rear (as unloading the inside tyre too quickly could also cause loss of traction). I'm just saying that 'stiffening' the shocks does not necessarily increase the amount of weight transferred, but it does affect the transition. [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	Savage Understeer	WHITCHY	Thu, 11 November 2004 10:30
	Re: Savage Understeer	mrshin	Thu, 11 November 2004 10:36
	Re: Savage Understeer	Nark	Thu, 11 November 2004 10:37
	Re: Savage Understeer	4ageeza	Thu, 11 November 2004 10:46
	Re: Savage Understeer	Nark	Thu, 11 November 2004 10:53
	Re: Savage Understeer	EMP-2TG	Thu, 11 November 2004 11:06
	Re: Savage Understeer	gianttomato	Thu, 11 November 2004 19:54
	Re: Savage Understeer	rob_RA40	Thu, 11 November 2004 21:32
	Re: Savage Understeer	AE86slut	Thu, 11 November 2004 21:54
	Re: Savage Understeer	rob_RA40	Thu, 11 November 2004 22:21
	Re: Savage Understeer	AE86slut	Fri, 12 November 2004 02:35
	Re: Savage Understeer	ra23celica	Fri, 12 November 2004 02:48
	Re: Savage Understeer	AE86slut	Fri, 12 November 2004 02:59
	Re: Savage Understeer	ra23celica	Fri, 12 November 2004 03:48
	Re: Savage Understeer	AE86slut	Fri, 12 November 2004 06:21
	Re: Savage Understeer	ra23celica	Fri, 12 November 2004 06:42
	Re: Savage Understeer	ae86slaver	Fri, 12 November 2004 08:58
	Re: Savage Understeer	Nark	Sat, 13 November 2004 03:29
	Re: Savage Understeer	4ageeza	Sat, 13 November 2004 06:05
	Re: Savage Understeer	Nark	Sat, 13 November 2004 23:34
	Re: Savage Understeer	ae86slaver	Sun, 14 November 2004 01:57
	Re: Savage Understeer	Nark	Sun, 14 November 2004 22:37
	Re: Savage Understeer	ae86slaver	Sun, 14 November 2004 23:28
	Re: Savage Understeer	rob_RA40	Fri, 12 November 2004 03:11
	Re: Savage Understeer	ae86slaver	Fri, 12 November 2004 04:25
	Re: Savage Understeer	davedave	Fri, 12 November 2004 04:26
	Re: Savage Understeer	dcleyne	Fri, 12 November 2004 01:04
	Re: Savage Understeer	4agte	Fri, 12 November 2004 02:34
	Re: Savage Understeer	4agte	Fri, 12 November 2004 03:02
	Re: Savage Understeer	ra23celica	Fri, 12 November 2004 03:57
	Re: Savage Understeer	4ageeza	Fri, 12 November 2004 03:37
	Re: Savage Understeer	bathurst-91	Fri, 12 November 2004 04:30
	Re: Savage Understeer	Nark	Fri, 12 November 2004 05:13
	Re: Savage Understeer	WHITCHY	Fri, 12 November 2004 05:03
	Re: Savage Understeer	ae86drift	Fri, 12 November 2004 08:40
	Re: Savage Understeer	ae86slaver	Fri, 12 November 2004 05:06
	Re: Savage Understeer	4ageeza	Fri, 12 November 2004 07:20
	Re: Savage Understeer	ra23celica	Fri, 12 November 2004 07:40
	Re: Savage Understeer	4ageeza	Fri, 12 November 2004 07:45
	Re: Savage Understeer	AE86slut	Fri, 12 November 2004 08:53
	Re: Savage Understeer	ae86drift	Fri, 12 November 2004 08:31
	Re: Savage Understeer	4ageeza	Fri, 12 November 2004 09:05
	Re: Savage Understeer	AE86slut	Fri, 12 November 2004 09:12
	Re: Savage Understeer	ae86drift	Fri, 12 November 2004 09:17
	Re: Savage Understeer	indigoid	Fri, 12 November 2004 10:57
	Re: Savage Understeer	ae86drift	Fri, 12 November 2004 14:09
	Re: Savage Understeer	takai	Fri, 12 November 2004 13:15
	Re: Savage Understeer	Simon-AE86	Fri, 12 November 2004 15:27
	Re: Savage Understeer	oldcorollas	Mon, 15 November 2004 02:56
	Re: Savage Understeer	Sam_Q	Tue, 16 November 2004 21:48
	Re: Savage Understeer	gianttomato	Tue, 16 November 2004 22:33
	Re: Savage Understeer	Sam_Q	Wed, 17 November 2004 01:28
	Re: Savage Understeer	davedave	Tue, 16 November 2004 22:33
	Re: Savage Understeer	rob_RA40	Sat, 13 November 2004 00:12
	Re: Savage Understeer	Classique71	Sat, 13 November 2004 02:23
	Re: Savage Understeer	joecoolmk2	Sun, 14 November 2004 02:02
	Re: Savage Understeer	RWDboy	Mon, 15 November 2004 01:01
	Re: Savage Understeer	shinybluesteel	Mon, 15 November 2004 01:22
	Re: Savage Understeer	koen	Mon, 15 November 2004 01:32
	Re: Savage Understeer	Bobski	Mon, 15 November 2004 02:27
	Re: Savage Understeer	rob_RA40	Tue, 16 November 2004 22:26
	Re: Savage Understeer	rob_RA40	Wed, 17 November 2004 01:30
	Re: Savage Understeer	Sam_Q	Wed, 17 November 2004 01:32
	Re: Savage Understeer	EvilJack	Wed, 17 November 2004 02:32
	Re: Savage Understeer	Bobski	Wed, 17 November 2004 03:21
	Re: Savage Understeer	Sam_Q	Wed, 17 November 2004 06:32
	Re: Savage Understeer	RWDboy	Wed, 17 November 2004 06:43
	Re: Savage Understeer	indigoid	Wed, 17 November 2004 08:56
	Re: Savage Understeer	TurboRA28	Wed, 17 November 2004 06:50
	Re: Savage Understeer	RWDboy	Wed, 17 November 2004 06:52
	Re: Savage Understeer	Corona RT142	Wed, 17 November 2004 09:06
	Re: Savage Understeer	Flem	Wed, 17 November 2004 09:12
	Re: Savage Understeer	Bobski	Wed, 17 November 2004 13:18
	Re: Savage Understeer	RWDboy	Thu, 18 November 2004 01:19
	Re: Savage Understeer	AE86slut	Thu, 18 November 2004 03:40
	Re: Savage Understeer	RWDboy	Thu, 18 November 2004 01:31
	Re: Savage Understeer	Jonny2TG	Thu, 18 November 2004 02:37
	Re: Savage Understeer	Jonny2TG	Thu, 18 November 2004 02:46
	Re: Savage Understeer	ae86slaver	Thu, 18 November 2004 02:48
	Re: Savage Understeer	Bobski	Thu, 18 November 2004 02:49
	Re: Savage Understeer	RWDboy	Thu, 18 November 2004 03:06
	Re: Savage Understeer	ae86slaver	Thu, 18 November 2004 02:51
	Re: Savage Understeer	Bobski	Thu, 18 November 2004 03:35
	Re: Savage Understeer	RWDboy	Thu, 18 November 2004 03:46
	Re: Savage Understeer	AE86slut	Thu, 18 November 2004 04:30
	Re: Savage Understeer	Bobski	Thu, 18 November 2004 09:39
	Re: Savage Understeer	RWDboy	Thu, 18 November 2004 16:10

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