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RWDboy Forums Junkie Location: South Australia Registered: July 2002	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed? Wed, 17 November 2004 07:13 Back to the point - what we are talking about is collisions that occur at 60km/h, not collisions that occur when the car was at one stage in it's life time travelling at 60km/h and a pedestrian got hit at a lower speed. The best case scenario if you are hit by a car going a steady 60km/h (for example doing something stupid like walking out from behind a bus that is kerbside whilst not looking to your right and getting totally cleaned up) is that you will roll over the entire car. Obviously there are better scenarios - like the guy braking - but then that wouldn't exactly be a 60km/h collision. I wouldn't be surprised at the number of pedestrians that survive being hit by a car - but the number that survive when hit by a car going 60km/h would be a very unremarkable number. And if the number of pedestrians surviving is so good, then why the fuck do we care about pop-up headlights Also, going under a 4WD is not as bad as going under a lamborghini. Furthermore, the surface area of a roo bar is definitely smaller than the surface area of a front grill. Bull bars are MUCH deadlier than you are making them out to be! They are designed to basically 'do nothing' and ensure that the car doesn't get damaged, much to the chagrin of the now-dead pedestrian/roo/etc. Having said that, I totally agree - banning pop-up headlights is clearly a pointless political show-ponying exercise. [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	popup headlights no longer allowed?	fractoid	Sun, 14 November 2004 08:03
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	ae86drift	Sun, 14 November 2004 08:15
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	shcao	Sun, 14 November 2004 08:27
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	dimmy77_03	Sun, 14 November 2004 09:00
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	ae86_boy	Sun, 14 November 2004 09:31
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	TRD_Celica	Sun, 14 November 2004 10:02
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	fractoid	Sun, 14 November 2004 10:19
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	RWDboy	Sun, 14 November 2004 10:20
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	ae86drift	Sun, 14 November 2004 10:22
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	RWDboy	Sun, 14 November 2004 10:22
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	bathurst-91	Sun, 14 November 2004 10:23
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	RWDboy	Sun, 14 November 2004 10:26
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	pr1nce	Sun, 14 November 2004 10:27
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	ZZT231	Sun, 14 November 2004 10:36
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	RWDboy	Sun, 14 November 2004 10:42
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	Arch	Sun, 14 November 2004 11:16
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	Hawk	Sun, 14 November 2004 22:37
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	MR 1JZ	Sun, 14 November 2004 22:40
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	Jag7799	Sun, 14 November 2004 22:46
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	draven	Sun, 14 November 2004 22:52
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	Evil_Foetus	Mon, 15 November 2004 12:03
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	RWDboy	Mon, 15 November 2004 01:47
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	fractoid	Mon, 15 November 2004 01:54
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	RAV-GT4	Mon, 15 November 2004 03:18
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	Jag7799	Mon, 15 November 2004 03:19
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	fractoid	Mon, 15 November 2004 03:53
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	shaneblack	Tue, 16 November 2004 07:39
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	toof	Mon, 15 November 2004 06:03
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	RobST162	Mon, 15 November 2004 07:26
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	jackel	Mon, 15 November 2004 07:59
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	justcallmefrank	Mon, 15 November 2004 08:02
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	RobST162	Mon, 15 November 2004 08:02
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	EnFlaMEd	Mon, 15 November 2004 08:14
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	Hawk	Mon, 15 November 2004 08:23
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	Jag7799	Mon, 15 November 2004 09:20
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	RobST162	Mon, 15 November 2004 09:25
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	justcallmefrank	Mon, 15 November 2004 10:36
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	Jag7799	Mon, 15 November 2004 11:11
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	justcallmefrank	Mon, 15 November 2004 11:47
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	CrUZsida	Tue, 16 November 2004 00:37
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	Jag7799	Mon, 15 November 2004 11:13
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	thechuckster	Mon, 15 November 2004 11:21
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	RWDboy	Mon, 15 November 2004 12:35
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	CrUZsida	Tue, 16 November 2004 00:39
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	Jag7799	Tue, 16 November 2004 00:42
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	fractoid	Tue, 16 November 2004 01:12
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	RWDboy	Tue, 16 November 2004 09:19
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	fractoid	Tue, 16 November 2004 09:44
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	RWDboy	Tue, 16 November 2004 13:59
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	shaneblack	Wed, 17 November 2004 06:34
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	fractoid	Wed, 17 November 2004 07:01
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	RWDboy	Wed, 17 November 2004 07:13
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	shaneblack	Thu, 18 November 2004 06:33
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	b1gb3n	Thu, 18 November 2004 12:27
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	RWDboy	Thu, 18 November 2004 16:18
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	b1gb3n	Thu, 18 November 2004 17:47
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	Toobs	Thu, 18 November 2004 22:15
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	Hawk	Thu, 18 November 2004 22:54
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	b1gb3n	Fri, 19 November 2004 06:30
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	alliance_22	Thu, 18 November 2004 23:23
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	alliance_22	Thu, 18 November 2004 23:27
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	Toobs	Fri, 19 November 2004 00:30
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	RWDboy	Fri, 19 November 2004 01:16
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	fractoid	Fri, 19 November 2004 03:44

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