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Re: has neone with a corona beaten a 96 commy ute series 1 Wed, 17 November 2004 07:59 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Corona RT142 wrote on Wed, 17 November 2004 13:15

The performance figures for the old holden engined utes are around 0-100 in 8+ seconds, this is from back issue of motor. I'm not a moron a realise that utes have no weight over the rear wheels and I didn't suggest me racing one. I think the figures in motor were recorded with an automatic though as that is all they could access at the time and most of the utes are sold in. Bad tryes don't think so brand new press vehcile.
The old holdens were never really known to be fast off the line just a great roll on acceleration vehicle. The ute never got the improved holden v8 and thus was stuck with 168kw. Remember it weighed around 1400-1450 kg meaning it doesn't really have a great power to weight ratio, match this with one of the worst automatic gearboxes around and you have a pretty sluggish car.
Before holden got the gen111 and fords around the same time the 6cyl generally out performed the eights because of less weight and the fact that both had live rear axles and when putting slightly less power through you actually were able to come off the line cleaner. Remember the old v8s have a stack of torque down low and thus wheelspin far more than even a gen111 of the line which doesn't produce serious power until above 4000rpm.



it still doesn't explain your theory on shitty grip? brand new tyres can and have been known too be bad it depends on what sort. As for the new improved V8 your on about wouldn't that make it worse? having more power would make it spin even more? and auto Commodores don't get power to the wheels as well as the manauls do, the V6's were quicker off the mark but once you reach about 70km/h onwards your in very dangerous V8 territory and the V8 has more torque up high then the V6 where the V6 generates most of it tourqe down low that why it seems quicker off the mark but not quick enough to push the V8 from having better 0-100km/h times, (any one who has raced a VS V6 against a VN-VS V8 will notice this too) a mate of mine I work with had VS Lexcen which could keep up too a VQ V8 Statesman up to 70km/h then the V8 would just leave it for dead, have witness this a few times, I know the driver of the statesman as well and he has owned anthoer one before that which had the same results(both cars standard with automatic transmissions)you have old motor mags? they'd show where max tourque occurs in both.
I never had any problems taking off with the VS V8 auto ute (I drove this on a very wet day too!) I have been lucky too drive quiet a few Commodore's (I still don't like them, but I'm just stating the truth!!), mates probablly thinking he's backing up Commos somethings wrong there!, the only beef I have with them is the usaual stabiltty issues all utes seemed to have at 120km/h onwards but these cars were designed to take loads. not for race! which they do well( but still I'd buy a Falcon over one anyday!) you just can't go wrong with the torque.

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