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shaneblack Occasional Poster Location: Albion Park, NSW Registered: October 2004	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed? Thu, 18 November 2004 06:33 Are we talking about being hit at 60 or people being hit by cars in gerneral? I though 60 was chosen as the maximum speed limit applying in most cases where pedestrians are hit? Anyway, I think we agree on most things other than the point at which there is a reasonable chance of survival. The only was of really knowing that is with some reliable statistics which would be hard to obtain because we aren't generally measuring the speed pedestrians get hit at and even the driver will only have an idea of the speed they where doing before they saw the pedestrian and hit the brakes. So on the couple of other smaller points, yes you'll likely do more damage going under a sports car than a 4WD but unless you're lying on the ground your most likely going to go over a sports car as the impact is going to be below you're centre of gravity and the frontal area is too small to catch and stop you. The chances of going under the 4WD are far greater and therefore the risk of sustaining the greater injury of going under the 4WD as opposed to over the sports car is also much greater. It's all a numbers game. As for the bullbars being much deadlier, it comes back to our point of where people will survive. You say it's highly unlikely to survive being hit by anything, including a family sedan, so nothing is deadlier than that. I'm saying that there's a reasonable chance against a family sedan but little chance against a 4WD and that my point of reasonable chance of survival has been passed. Anything beyond that point becomes irrelevant. I'd also like to say it has been a pleasure debating with someone who is able to keep producing reasonable, logical and thought out replies. Keep up the good work. [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	popup headlights no longer allowed?	fractoid	Sun, 14 November 2004 08:03
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	ae86drift	Sun, 14 November 2004 08:15
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	shcao	Sun, 14 November 2004 08:27
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	dimmy77_03	Sun, 14 November 2004 09:00
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	ae86_boy	Sun, 14 November 2004 09:31
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	TRD_Celica	Sun, 14 November 2004 10:02
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	fractoid	Sun, 14 November 2004 10:19
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	RWDboy	Sun, 14 November 2004 10:20
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	ae86drift	Sun, 14 November 2004 10:22
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	RWDboy	Sun, 14 November 2004 10:22
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	bathurst-91	Sun, 14 November 2004 10:23
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	RWDboy	Sun, 14 November 2004 10:26
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	pr1nce	Sun, 14 November 2004 10:27
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	ZZT231	Sun, 14 November 2004 10:36
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	RWDboy	Sun, 14 November 2004 10:42
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	Arch	Sun, 14 November 2004 11:16
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	Hawk	Sun, 14 November 2004 22:37
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	MR 1JZ	Sun, 14 November 2004 22:40
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	Jag7799	Sun, 14 November 2004 22:46
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	draven	Sun, 14 November 2004 22:52
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	Evil_Foetus	Mon, 15 November 2004 12:03
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	RWDboy	Mon, 15 November 2004 01:47
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	fractoid	Mon, 15 November 2004 01:54
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	RAV-GT4	Mon, 15 November 2004 03:18
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	Jag7799	Mon, 15 November 2004 03:19
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	fractoid	Mon, 15 November 2004 03:53
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	shaneblack	Tue, 16 November 2004 07:39
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	toof	Mon, 15 November 2004 06:03
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	RobST162	Mon, 15 November 2004 07:26
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	jackel	Mon, 15 November 2004 07:59
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	justcallmefrank	Mon, 15 November 2004 08:02
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	RobST162	Mon, 15 November 2004 08:02
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	EnFlaMEd	Mon, 15 November 2004 08:14
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	Hawk	Mon, 15 November 2004 08:23
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	Jag7799	Mon, 15 November 2004 09:20
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	RobST162	Mon, 15 November 2004 09:25
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	justcallmefrank	Mon, 15 November 2004 10:36
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	Jag7799	Mon, 15 November 2004 11:11
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	justcallmefrank	Mon, 15 November 2004 11:47
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	CrUZsida	Tue, 16 November 2004 00:37
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	Jag7799	Mon, 15 November 2004 11:13
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	thechuckster	Mon, 15 November 2004 11:21
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	RWDboy	Mon, 15 November 2004 12:35
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	CrUZsida	Tue, 16 November 2004 00:39
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	Jag7799	Tue, 16 November 2004 00:42
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	fractoid	Tue, 16 November 2004 01:12
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	RWDboy	Tue, 16 November 2004 09:19
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	fractoid	Tue, 16 November 2004 09:44
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	RWDboy	Tue, 16 November 2004 13:59
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	shaneblack	Wed, 17 November 2004 06:34
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	fractoid	Wed, 17 November 2004 07:01
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	RWDboy	Wed, 17 November 2004 07:13
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	shaneblack	Thu, 18 November 2004 06:33
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	b1gb3n	Thu, 18 November 2004 12:27
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	RWDboy	Thu, 18 November 2004 16:18
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	b1gb3n	Thu, 18 November 2004 17:47
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	Toobs	Thu, 18 November 2004 22:15
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	Hawk	Thu, 18 November 2004 22:54
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	b1gb3n	Fri, 19 November 2004 06:30
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	alliance_22	Thu, 18 November 2004 23:23
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	alliance_22	Thu, 18 November 2004 23:27
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	Toobs	Fri, 19 November 2004 00:30
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	RWDboy	Fri, 19 November 2004 01:16
	Re: popup headlights no longer allowed?	fractoid	Fri, 19 November 2004 03:44

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