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The Untouchable Forums Junkie Location: Ballarat Registered: September 2003	Re: Martial Arts Mon, 22 November 2004 10:55 "A high level black belt in a martial art that relies heavily on kicking could probably hit you with 5 kicks before you even thought about landing 1 punch. " This statement, not giving you shit, but it is absolutely not true. A high level black belt, against a high level boxer probably will not dominate a fight as suggested. Every style has its strength, a kicker will generally have a high stance, as balance is needed in the hips whereas a strong puncher, will generally have a low stance, there balance will be lowered for power(both will be on their toes, but balance will be different). Now, im a kicker, so i have no reason to be biased, however, humans have a natural reflex to defend the head and most people will generally react by wacking a hand in the way of a kick, wont stop a good kick, but itll slow it, a bit. Obviously to defend against head kicks, and be proficient, much training is needed. So the kicker, to get a kick to the head, will compromise balance, and his/her foot cannot be further from their centre of gravity, which is when people are most vulnerable. Now a good boxer concentrates on speed, intricate footwork, powerful punching, and really powerful counterpunching. They will be well balanced and know when to be aggresive. Despite what happens in the movies, clean knockouts are VERY hard to achieve, no matter how good ones hip flexibility is. Punching to the head is effective for knockouts, as most of the bodies vital points are down the centerline: the point of the jaw, above the teeth, the bridge of the nose etc. Also the main two knuckles provides greater focus than the shin. What im saying is after all that shit: A high kick, 1 or 5 of them is a great compromise of balance. Up against a good boxer, counter aggresive boxer, it could be all over if the first kick doesnt achieve a knockout. Btw, its good to see Tae Kwon Do finally getting some respect. i personally would never do it coz it doesnt suit my needs, but martial arts has developed greatly from it, in terms of balance, and also, the axe kick is largely an adaption from TKD exponents. Word out. [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	Martial Arts	SilverGhost	Wed, 17 November 2004 07:14
	Re: Martial Arts	Cool1	Wed, 17 November 2004 07:17
	Re: Martial Arts	Malicia	Wed, 17 November 2004 07:40
	Re: Martial Arts	sated	Wed, 17 November 2004 07:42
	Re: Martial Arts	matt_84	Wed, 17 November 2004 07:50
	Re: Martial Arts	SilverGhost	Wed, 17 November 2004 08:26
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Wed, 17 November 2004 09:55
	Re: Martial Arts	Cool1	Wed, 17 November 2004 10:00
	Re: Martial Arts	draven	Wed, 17 November 2004 10:34
	Re: Martial Arts	matt_84	Wed, 17 November 2004 10:42
	Re: Martial Arts	justcallmefrank	Thu, 18 November 2004 00:48
	Re: Martial Arts	b1gb3n	Thu, 18 November 2004 18:10
	Re: Martial Arts	MFX_Neko_86	Wed, 17 November 2004 10:39
	Re: Martial Arts	AE86slut	Wed, 17 November 2004 11:02
	Re: Martial Arts	RA28	Wed, 17 November 2004 11:37
	Re: Martial Arts	draven	Wed, 17 November 2004 11:52
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Wed, 17 November 2004 22:50
	Re: Martial Arts	sated	Thu, 18 November 2004 14:05
	Re: Martial Arts	4ageeza	Thu, 18 November 2004 15:12
	Re: Martial Arts	riceburna73	Thu, 18 November 2004 00:49
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Thu, 18 November 2004 01:28
	Re: Martial Arts	yut_hon	Thu, 14 July 2005 01:37
	Re: Martial Arts	ra23mad	Thu, 18 November 2004 02:15
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Thu, 18 November 2004 05:15
	Re: Martial Arts	AE86slut	Thu, 18 November 2004 05:19
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Thu, 18 November 2004 03:07
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Thu, 18 November 2004 03:13
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Thu, 18 November 2004 03:17
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Thu, 18 November 2004 03:27
	Re: Martial Arts	AE86slut	Thu, 18 November 2004 03:30
	Re: Martial Arts	riceburna73	Thu, 18 November 2004 04:22
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Thu, 18 November 2004 04:38
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Thu, 18 November 2004 04:42
	Re: Martial Arts	Cool1	Thu, 18 November 2004 07:09
	Re: Martial Arts	AE86slut	Thu, 18 November 2004 07:20
	Re: Martial Arts	Cool1	Thu, 18 November 2004 07:22
	Re: Martial Arts	AE86slut	Thu, 18 November 2004 07:27
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Thu, 18 November 2004 08:41
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Thu, 18 November 2004 12:05
	Re: Martial Arts	boris	Thu, 18 November 2004 12:30
	Re: Martial Arts	Cool1	Thu, 18 November 2004 07:37
	Re: Martial Arts	AE86slut	Thu, 18 November 2004 07:44
	Re: Martial Arts	riceburna73	Thu, 18 November 2004 11:16
	Re: Martial Arts	RA28	Thu, 18 November 2004 12:38
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Thu, 18 November 2004 12:55
	Re: Martial Arts	sated	Thu, 18 November 2004 16:27
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Thu, 18 November 2004 21:38
	Re: Martial Arts	b1gb3n	Thu, 18 November 2004 18:03
	Re: Martial Arts	Goose	Fri, 19 November 2004 00:32
	Re: Martial Arts	4ageeza	Fri, 19 November 2004 00:58
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Fri, 19 November 2004 01:49
	Re: Martial Arts	RA28	Sat, 20 November 2004 07:55
	Re: Martial Arts	Goose	Fri, 19 November 2004 03:17
	Re: Martial Arts	Bill Sherwood	Sat, 20 November 2004 08:10
	Re: Martial Arts	The Untouchable	Mon, 22 November 2004 03:46
	Re: Martial Arts	Cool1	Mon, 22 November 2004 04:41
	Re: Martial Arts	matt_84	Mon, 22 November 2004 05:04
	Re: Martial Arts	boris	Mon, 22 November 2004 05:09
	Re: Martial Arts	matt_84	Mon, 22 November 2004 05:13
	Re: Martial Arts	boris	Mon, 22 November 2004 05:14
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Mon, 22 November 2004 05:23
	Re: Martial Arts	bunkyT18	Wed, 29 June 2005 07:25
	Re: Martial Arts	BigBadBenny	Thu, 14 July 2005 13:16
	Re: Martial Arts	Cool1	Mon, 22 November 2004 06:19
	Re: Martial Arts	Norminator	Mon, 22 November 2004 06:28
	Re: Martial Arts	The Untouchable	Mon, 22 November 2004 10:55
	Re: Martial Arts	fractoid	Mon, 22 November 2004 11:23
	Re: Martial Arts	sated	Mon, 22 November 2004 14:37
	Re: Martial Arts	boris	Tue, 23 November 2004 00:27
	Re: Martial Arts	justcallmefrank	Mon, 22 November 2004 11:24
	Re: Martial Arts	fractoid	Mon, 22 November 2004 12:11
	Re: Martial Arts	Shraka	Mon, 22 November 2004 11:34
	Re: Martial Arts	MFX_Neko_86	Mon, 22 November 2004 11:47
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Mon, 22 November 2004 12:39
	Re: Martial Arts	Shraka	Tue, 23 November 2004 02:28
	Re: Martial Arts	Evil_Foetus	Tue, 23 November 2004 02:35
	Re: Martial Arts	Yian	Tue, 23 November 2004 02:39
	Re: Martial Arts	The Untouchable	Tue, 23 November 2004 02:39
	Re: Martial Arts	RAV-GT4	Tue, 23 November 2004 02:44
	Re: Martial Arts	RWDboy	Tue, 23 November 2004 04:07
	Re: Martial Arts	RWDboy	Tue, 23 November 2004 04:15
	Re: Martial Arts	RWDboy	Tue, 23 November 2004 04:26
	Re: Martial Arts	boris	Tue, 23 November 2004 04:49
	Re: Martial Arts	The Untouchable	Tue, 23 November 2004 04:55
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Tue, 23 November 2004 10:21
	Re: Martial Arts	muaythaiman	Tue, 23 November 2004 11:02
	Re: Martial Arts	RWDboy	Tue, 23 November 2004 13:20
	Re: Martial Arts	RWDboy	Tue, 23 November 2004 13:38
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Tue, 23 November 2004 15:38
	Re: Martial Arts	boris	Wed, 24 November 2004 00:32
	Re: Martial Arts	RWDboy	Wed, 24 November 2004 00:35
	Re: Martial Arts	RWDboy	Wed, 24 November 2004 00:39
	Re: Martial Arts	The Untouchable	Wed, 24 November 2004 03:27
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Wed, 24 November 2004 18:20
	Re: Martial Arts	fOOZ86	Fri, 24 June 2005 13:21
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Sat, 25 June 2005 01:19
	Re: Martial Arts	Malicia	Fri, 24 June 2005 14:27
	Re: Martial Arts	RWDboy	Fri, 24 June 2005 15:53
	Re: Martial Arts	fOOZ86	Fri, 24 June 2005 16:34
	Re: Martial Arts	Malicia	Fri, 24 June 2005 17:02
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	Re: Martial Arts	Malicia	Fri, 24 June 2005 17:15
	Re: Martial Arts	captain chaos	Fri, 24 June 2005 23:53
	Re: Martial Arts	RWDboy	Sat, 25 June 2005 02:10
	Re: Martial Arts	fOOZ86	Sat, 25 June 2005 04:49
	Re: Martial Arts	illuminatus	Sat, 25 June 2005 05:19
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Sat, 25 June 2005 06:27
	Re: Martial Arts	sleeker162	Sat, 25 June 2005 08:39
	Re: Martial Arts	fOOZ86	Sat, 25 June 2005 08:49
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Sat, 25 June 2005 18:38
	Re: Martial Arts	b1gb3n	Sat, 25 June 2005 10:25
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Sat, 25 June 2005 18:44
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Sat, 25 June 2005 18:54
	Re: Martial Arts	captain chaos	Wed, 29 June 2005 05:26
	Re: Martial Arts	b1gb3n	Fri, 01 July 2005 09:35
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Fri, 01 July 2005 09:57
	Re: Martial Arts	fOOZ86	Sat, 25 June 2005 19:34
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Fri, 01 July 2005 10:34
	Re: Martial Arts	Big T	Fri, 01 July 2005 13:56
	Re: Martial Arts	fOOZ86	Fri, 01 July 2005 15:31
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Sat, 02 July 2005 08:19
	Re: Martial Arts	b1gb3n	Sat, 02 July 2005 11:53
	Re: Martial Arts	bubbles	Sat, 02 July 2005 12:11
	Re: Martial Arts	Malicia	Mon, 04 July 2005 14:45
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Sat, 02 July 2005 14:43
	Re: Martial Arts	bunkyT18	Mon, 04 July 2005 00:51
	Re: Martial Arts	RWDboy	Mon, 04 July 2005 16:12
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Tue, 05 July 2005 01:06
	Re: Martial Arts	bunkyT18	Tue, 05 July 2005 03:37
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Tue, 05 July 2005 08:28
	Re: Martial Arts	bunkyT18	Wed, 06 July 2005 05:09
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Wed, 06 July 2005 07:53
	Re: Martial Arts	dlwd3w	Thu, 07 July 2005 04:35
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Thu, 07 July 2005 09:51
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Thu, 07 July 2005 09:53
	Re: Martial Arts	dlwd3w	Sun, 17 July 2005 07:28
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Sun, 17 July 2005 10:01

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