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Shraka Forums Junkie Location: Melbourne Registered: November 2003	Re: Martial Arts Mon, 22 November 2004 11:34 Personally I don't like most high kicking styles. The kicks, no matter how fast, are still slow compared to punches. While the kicks are usually fairly powerful, just watching a high kicking art makes me wanna just rush them and drop my shoulder into them mid kick. I like throwing and grappling styles. From all the fights I've seen, EVERY ONE gets into a grapple position. It's human nature. Obviously very high level martial artists will be able to avoid grapples, but why go against nature if you just plan on defending yourself from mid level aggressors? Styles that focus on punching and grappling form kinda annoy me. My style was like this. I never learned proper balance as it wasn't taught. I was just expected to know instinctual. Sure I know how to punch and grapple, but if someone blows passed one of my punches and just spear tackles me I'm fucked. Having said that their where a few classes where I really felt like "That attack is strong" but most of the time it was about charging them and getting in close first. Putting them off center of balance and them hitting them with close strikes or grapples. Yet we spend 15 mins of every 45 min class doing punches and kicks. It depends what you want really. I would say high kicking styles are a bit silly for self defense. I mean, a high level Tae Kwon Do artist will blitz a mid to low level of most anything else. But put a high level Tae Kwon Do fighter against a good punching and grappling fighter who has spend the same amount of time and determination on their art, and the TKD guy should be slaughtered in a fight. I'm also talking about real world fights, not sparing, as they are totally different. But that depends. TKD is very impressive looking, and great for flexibility and fitness. And while useful, not as efficient a fighting style as many others. I enjoy soft styles, but MAN they take FOREVER to learn! But oh yeah... good and... just... strong! [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	Martial Arts	SilverGhost	Wed, 17 November 2004 07:14
	Re: Martial Arts	Cool1	Wed, 17 November 2004 07:17
	Re: Martial Arts	Malicia	Wed, 17 November 2004 07:40
	Re: Martial Arts	sated	Wed, 17 November 2004 07:42
	Re: Martial Arts	matt_84	Wed, 17 November 2004 07:50
	Re: Martial Arts	SilverGhost	Wed, 17 November 2004 08:26
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Wed, 17 November 2004 09:55
	Re: Martial Arts	Cool1	Wed, 17 November 2004 10:00
	Re: Martial Arts	draven	Wed, 17 November 2004 10:34
	Re: Martial Arts	matt_84	Wed, 17 November 2004 10:42
	Re: Martial Arts	justcallmefrank	Thu, 18 November 2004 00:48
	Re: Martial Arts	b1gb3n	Thu, 18 November 2004 18:10
	Re: Martial Arts	MFX_Neko_86	Wed, 17 November 2004 10:39
	Re: Martial Arts	AE86slut	Wed, 17 November 2004 11:02
	Re: Martial Arts	RA28	Wed, 17 November 2004 11:37
	Re: Martial Arts	draven	Wed, 17 November 2004 11:52
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Wed, 17 November 2004 22:50
	Re: Martial Arts	sated	Thu, 18 November 2004 14:05
	Re: Martial Arts	4ageeza	Thu, 18 November 2004 15:12
	Re: Martial Arts	riceburna73	Thu, 18 November 2004 00:49
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	Re: Martial Arts	ra23mad	Thu, 18 November 2004 02:15
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Thu, 18 November 2004 05:15
	Re: Martial Arts	AE86slut	Thu, 18 November 2004 05:19
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Thu, 18 November 2004 03:07
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Thu, 18 November 2004 03:13
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Thu, 18 November 2004 03:17
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Thu, 18 November 2004 03:27
	Re: Martial Arts	AE86slut	Thu, 18 November 2004 03:30
	Re: Martial Arts	riceburna73	Thu, 18 November 2004 04:22
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Thu, 18 November 2004 04:38
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Thu, 18 November 2004 04:42
	Re: Martial Arts	Cool1	Thu, 18 November 2004 07:09
	Re: Martial Arts	AE86slut	Thu, 18 November 2004 07:20
	Re: Martial Arts	Cool1	Thu, 18 November 2004 07:22
	Re: Martial Arts	AE86slut	Thu, 18 November 2004 07:27
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Thu, 18 November 2004 08:41
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Thu, 18 November 2004 12:05
	Re: Martial Arts	boris	Thu, 18 November 2004 12:30
	Re: Martial Arts	Cool1	Thu, 18 November 2004 07:37
	Re: Martial Arts	AE86slut	Thu, 18 November 2004 07:44
	Re: Martial Arts	riceburna73	Thu, 18 November 2004 11:16
	Re: Martial Arts	RA28	Thu, 18 November 2004 12:38
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Thu, 18 November 2004 12:55
	Re: Martial Arts	sated	Thu, 18 November 2004 16:27
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Thu, 18 November 2004 21:38
	Re: Martial Arts	b1gb3n	Thu, 18 November 2004 18:03
	Re: Martial Arts	Goose	Fri, 19 November 2004 00:32
	Re: Martial Arts	4ageeza	Fri, 19 November 2004 00:58
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Fri, 19 November 2004 01:49
	Re: Martial Arts	RA28	Sat, 20 November 2004 07:55
	Re: Martial Arts	Goose	Fri, 19 November 2004 03:17
	Re: Martial Arts	Bill Sherwood	Sat, 20 November 2004 08:10
	Re: Martial Arts	The Untouchable	Mon, 22 November 2004 03:46
	Re: Martial Arts	Cool1	Mon, 22 November 2004 04:41
	Re: Martial Arts	matt_84	Mon, 22 November 2004 05:04
	Re: Martial Arts	boris	Mon, 22 November 2004 05:09
	Re: Martial Arts	matt_84	Mon, 22 November 2004 05:13
	Re: Martial Arts	boris	Mon, 22 November 2004 05:14
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Mon, 22 November 2004 05:23
	Re: Martial Arts	bunkyT18	Wed, 29 June 2005 07:25
	Re: Martial Arts	BigBadBenny	Thu, 14 July 2005 13:16
	Re: Martial Arts	Cool1	Mon, 22 November 2004 06:19
	Re: Martial Arts	Norminator	Mon, 22 November 2004 06:28
	Re: Martial Arts	The Untouchable	Mon, 22 November 2004 10:55
	Re: Martial Arts	fractoid	Mon, 22 November 2004 11:23
	Re: Martial Arts	sated	Mon, 22 November 2004 14:37
	Re: Martial Arts	boris	Tue, 23 November 2004 00:27
	Re: Martial Arts	justcallmefrank	Mon, 22 November 2004 11:24
	Re: Martial Arts	fractoid	Mon, 22 November 2004 12:11
	Re: Martial Arts	Shraka	Mon, 22 November 2004 11:34
	Re: Martial Arts	MFX_Neko_86	Mon, 22 November 2004 11:47
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Mon, 22 November 2004 12:39
	Re: Martial Arts	Shraka	Tue, 23 November 2004 02:28
	Re: Martial Arts	Evil_Foetus	Tue, 23 November 2004 02:35
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	Re: Martial Arts	The Untouchable	Tue, 23 November 2004 02:39
	Re: Martial Arts	RAV-GT4	Tue, 23 November 2004 02:44
	Re: Martial Arts	RWDboy	Tue, 23 November 2004 04:07
	Re: Martial Arts	RWDboy	Tue, 23 November 2004 04:15
	Re: Martial Arts	RWDboy	Tue, 23 November 2004 04:26
	Re: Martial Arts	boris	Tue, 23 November 2004 04:49
	Re: Martial Arts	The Untouchable	Tue, 23 November 2004 04:55
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Tue, 23 November 2004 10:21
	Re: Martial Arts	muaythaiman	Tue, 23 November 2004 11:02
	Re: Martial Arts	RWDboy	Tue, 23 November 2004 13:20
	Re: Martial Arts	RWDboy	Tue, 23 November 2004 13:38
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Tue, 23 November 2004 15:38
	Re: Martial Arts	boris	Wed, 24 November 2004 00:32
	Re: Martial Arts	RWDboy	Wed, 24 November 2004 00:35
	Re: Martial Arts	RWDboy	Wed, 24 November 2004 00:39
	Re: Martial Arts	The Untouchable	Wed, 24 November 2004 03:27
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Wed, 24 November 2004 18:20
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	Re: Martial Arts	Malicia	Fri, 24 June 2005 14:27
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	Re: Martial Arts	captain chaos	Fri, 24 June 2005 23:53
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	Re: Martial Arts	fOOZ86	Sat, 25 June 2005 04:49
	Re: Martial Arts	illuminatus	Sat, 25 June 2005 05:19
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Sat, 25 June 2005 06:27
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	Re: Martial Arts	fOOZ86	Sat, 25 June 2005 08:49
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Sat, 25 June 2005 18:38
	Re: Martial Arts	b1gb3n	Sat, 25 June 2005 10:25
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Sat, 25 June 2005 18:44
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Sat, 25 June 2005 18:54
	Re: Martial Arts	captain chaos	Wed, 29 June 2005 05:26
	Re: Martial Arts	b1gb3n	Fri, 01 July 2005 09:35
	Re: Martial Arts	Nark	Fri, 01 July 2005 09:57
	Re: Martial Arts	fOOZ86	Sat, 25 June 2005 19:34
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Fri, 01 July 2005 10:34
	Re: Martial Arts	Big T	Fri, 01 July 2005 13:56
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	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Sat, 02 July 2005 08:19
	Re: Martial Arts	b1gb3n	Sat, 02 July 2005 11:53
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	Re: Martial Arts	Malicia	Mon, 04 July 2005 14:45
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Sat, 02 July 2005 14:43
	Re: Martial Arts	bunkyT18	Mon, 04 July 2005 00:51
	Re: Martial Arts	RWDboy	Mon, 04 July 2005 16:12
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Tue, 05 July 2005 01:06
	Re: Martial Arts	bunkyT18	Tue, 05 July 2005 03:37
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Tue, 05 July 2005 08:28
	Re: Martial Arts	bunkyT18	Wed, 06 July 2005 05:09
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Wed, 06 July 2005 07:53
	Re: Martial Arts	dlwd3w	Thu, 07 July 2005 04:35
	Re: Martial Arts	no_tofu_speed	Thu, 07 July 2005 09:51
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	Re: Martial Arts	dlwd3w	Sun, 17 July 2005 07:28
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