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riceburna73 Forums Junkie Location: Sydney Registered: April 2004	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34' Wed, 24 November 2004 01:42 Yep driver education and training is the key,and i believe they are quite different things,,driver education should involve,having to watch crash scene vids, crash test vids(i shat myself when i saw you were unlikely to survive in an 80kph accident)listening to guest speakers who have lost loved ones or become seriously damaged because of motor vehicle accidents...THIS SHOULD ALL BE DONE BEFORE SOMEONE IS EVEN ALLOWED TO GET ON THE ROAD BY THEMSELVES.. Then you have driver training: simple things like knowing how to spot traffic trends and movement 3 cars ahead,general etiquette,freeway merging,night and wet weather training,driving a car with distractions,advanced vehicle controll.People fear that giving people better skills in controlling a car will encourage them to get the thing stepping out more, i think that the very few that will do this, will do it in their own time and in a more controlled environment because they have seen and experienced what can go wrong...the only restriction i do believe in is power output restrictions on provisional drivers,,C,mon i understand that i used to get up to 150+ in my old celica with a stock 2T but it didnt get there in a matter of seconds All in all we need to realise there will never be an end to the road toll,so the solutions shouldnt be viewed in the tense of, eg:oh well you can get upto 100kph in a charade so power restrictions arent going to work, but..Will this type of law help reduce the chance of people killing or hurting themselves/other people, whilst also offering them the type of progressive learning everyone needs! On a last note did you know that in the late 70's the average road toll was up around the 7000+ mark? Know what it is now? around the 2000 mark.. There will always be vehicle related deaths because unfortunately our bodies were never designed to travel at the speeds we do and the more people that realise this the better we may all be off.. [Updated on: Wed, 24 November 2004 01:46] [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Tue, 23 November 2004 01:29
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	boris	Tue, 23 November 2004 01:31
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	ae86slaver	Tue, 23 November 2004 01:48
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	boris	Tue, 23 November 2004 01:50
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	ae86slaver	Tue, 23 November 2004 01:55
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	ae86slaver	Tue, 23 November 2004 02:01
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	AE86Boy	Tue, 23 November 2004 02:15
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	Shraka	Tue, 23 November 2004 02:37
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	Evan	Tue, 23 November 2004 02:16
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	AE86Boy	Tue, 23 November 2004 02:56
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	ae86slaver	Tue, 23 November 2004 03:13
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	ae86slaver	Tue, 23 November 2004 03:51
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	RobST162	Tue, 23 November 2004 03:55
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	riceburna73	Tue, 23 November 2004 04:03
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	Evan	Tue, 23 November 2004 04:15
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	lite	Tue, 23 November 2004 04:38
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	finney	Tue, 23 November 2004 04:49
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	b1gb3n	Thu, 25 November 2004 17:17
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	lite	Tue, 23 November 2004 04:53
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ZZT231	Tue, 23 November 2004 05:31
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Tue, 23 November 2004 05:54
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	bathurst-91	Tue, 23 November 2004 06:25
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	TRD_Celica	Tue, 23 November 2004 06:54
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Lench	Tue, 23 November 2004 06:55
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Tue, 23 November 2004 09:31
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	finney	Tue, 23 November 2004 09:41
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	TRD_Celica	Tue, 23 November 2004 07:02
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Evan	Tue, 23 November 2004 07:36
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Evan	Tue, 23 November 2004 07:39
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	old_mr2	Tue, 23 November 2004 11:55
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	boris	Tue, 23 November 2004 12:00
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Evan	Tue, 23 November 2004 12:39
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	rthy	Tue, 23 November 2004 13:19
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86drift	Tue, 23 November 2004 13:43
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	old_mr2	Tue, 23 November 2004 14:06
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Evan	Wed, 24 November 2004 00:38
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	dimmy77_03	Tue, 23 November 2004 09:03
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Tue, 23 November 2004 10:08
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	big JON	Tue, 23 November 2004 10:54
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	draven	Tue, 23 November 2004 13:23
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	no_tofu_speed	Tue, 23 November 2004 15:55
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	no_tofu_speed	Tue, 23 November 2004 15:59
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	4DaDrift	Sun, 28 November 2004 10:19
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	rthy	Sun, 28 November 2004 10:22
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	4DaDrift	Sun, 28 November 2004 10:33
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	chrisss	Tue, 23 November 2004 18:29
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	rob_RA40	Tue, 23 November 2004 21:30
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Tue, 23 November 2004 22:35
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Hirogen	Tue, 23 November 2004 23:05
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Tue, 23 November 2004 23:44
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	clubagreenie	Thu, 25 November 2004 11:10
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	rob_RA40	Tue, 23 November 2004 21:35
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	bathurst-91	Tue, 23 November 2004 22:47
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86drift	Fri, 26 November 2004 00:08
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Toobs	Tue, 23 November 2004 22:49
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ehendrikd	Tue, 23 November 2004 23:14
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Evan	Wed, 24 November 2004 01:42
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	RWDboy	Wed, 24 November 2004 01:40
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	riceburna73	Wed, 24 November 2004 01:42
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Corona RT142	Wed, 24 November 2004 02:22
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Goose	Wed, 24 November 2004 03:21
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Wed, 24 November 2004 03:35
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Ko Ko	Wed, 24 November 2004 06:01
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	BlackSupra	Wed, 24 November 2004 09:15
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	rthy	Wed, 24 November 2004 09:29
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Hirogen	Wed, 24 November 2004 10:11
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Fujiwara_ToFu	Wed, 24 November 2004 16:24
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	driftae86	Wed, 24 November 2004 16:47
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Wed, 24 November 2004 22:37
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	AE86slut	Thu, 25 November 2004 02:08
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	rthy	Thu, 25 November 2004 02:56
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	M.J.H	Wed, 24 November 2004 09:41
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	thu187	Thu, 25 November 2004 13:56
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	clubagreenie	Thu, 25 November 2004 21:10
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	nick2b	Thu, 25 November 2004 10:32
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	BlackSupra	Thu, 25 November 2004 10:48
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	nick2b	Thu, 25 November 2004 10:59
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	BlackSupra	Thu, 25 November 2004 11:11
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	nicked	Thu, 25 November 2004 10:54
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	nick2b	Thu, 25 November 2004 11:00
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	thu187	Mon, 29 November 2004 19:29
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	79rollaboy	Mon, 29 November 2004 20:06
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	79rollaboy	Mon, 29 November 2004 20:08
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	4DaDrift	Tue, 30 November 2004 10:57
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	4DaDrift	Tue, 30 November 2004 11:02
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	nick2b	Mon, 29 November 2004 22:51
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	rthy	Tue, 30 November 2004 00:07
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	BlackSupra	Wed, 01 December 2004 07:06
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	T APLUS 22	Fri, 03 December 2004 04:14
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Evan	Wed, 24 November 2004 09:55
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	86twinky	Wed, 24 November 2004 10:10
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	BlackSupra	Wed, 24 November 2004 11:06
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	86twinky	Wed, 24 November 2004 11:30
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	BlackSupra	Wed, 24 November 2004 11:45
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	4agte	Wed, 24 November 2004 11:41
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	M.J.H	Thu, 25 November 2004 05:43
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	86twinky	Wed, 24 November 2004 12:08
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	TRD_Celica	Wed, 24 November 2004 12:42
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	scrote	Wed, 24 November 2004 14:54
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae95	Wed, 24 November 2004 17:14
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86_boy	Wed, 24 November 2004 22:24
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Goose	Wed, 24 November 2004 23:02
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Wed, 24 November 2004 23:20
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Thu, 25 November 2004 01:08
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Fujiwara_ToFu	Thu, 25 November 2004 02:04
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Thu, 25 November 2004 02:52
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Thu, 25 November 2004 03:15
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	riceburna73	Thu, 25 November 2004 03:18
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	MFX_Neko_86	Thu, 25 November 2004 10:02
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	BlackSupra	Thu, 25 November 2004 10:09
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	dimmy77_03	Thu, 25 November 2004 11:13
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	SLY16V	Thu, 25 November 2004 15:17
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	b1gb3n	Thu, 25 November 2004 17:17
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	b1gb3n	Thu, 25 November 2004 17:33
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Corona RT142	Thu, 25 November 2004 21:53
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	riceburna73	Thu, 25 November 2004 22:52
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Thu, 25 November 2004 23:50
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	nick2b	Thu, 25 November 2004 23:53
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Fri, 26 November 2004 00:15
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	justcallmefrank	Fri, 26 November 2004 01:52
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	riceburna73	Fri, 26 November 2004 00:10
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86drift	Fri, 26 November 2004 01:04
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Fri, 26 November 2004 01:15
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	driftae86	Fri, 26 November 2004 01:58
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Fri, 26 November 2004 01:29
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Fri, 26 November 2004 02:49
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	86twinky	Fri, 26 November 2004 04:40
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86drift	Fri, 26 November 2004 04:49
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	79rollaboy	Fri, 26 November 2004 05:01
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	86twinky	Fri, 26 November 2004 05:04
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	79rollaboy	Fri, 26 November 2004 05:09
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Fri, 26 November 2004 05:16
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	rthy	Fri, 26 November 2004 05:22
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86drift	Fri, 26 November 2004 05:41
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Fri, 26 November 2004 04:54
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Fri, 26 November 2004 05:35
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Greg.	Fri, 26 November 2004 11:01
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	MFX_Neko_86	Fri, 26 November 2004 11:51
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	bathurst-91	Fri, 26 November 2004 12:12
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Alchemist	Fri, 26 November 2004 12:50
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	dimmy77_03	Fri, 26 November 2004 13:15
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	HyDrA	Fri, 26 November 2004 21:29
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	GIN51E	Fri, 26 November 2004 22:44
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	rthy	Mon, 29 November 2004 01:32
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	RobST162	Mon, 29 November 2004 01:37
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	thechuckster	Mon, 29 November 2004 02:20
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	RobST162	Mon, 29 November 2004 02:22
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	79rollaboy	Mon, 29 November 2004 04:57
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Evil_Foetus	Mon, 29 November 2004 05:04
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	SLY16V	Sat, 27 November 2004 15:17
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Sun, 28 November 2004 22:29
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	4DaDrift	Mon, 29 November 2004 13:20
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Corona RT142	Sun, 28 November 2004 23:07
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Sun, 28 November 2004 23:15
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Corona RT142	Sun, 28 November 2004 23:18
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Sun, 28 November 2004 23:20
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	thechuckster	Sun, 28 November 2004 23:59
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Corona RT142	Mon, 29 November 2004 00:27
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	4DaDrift	Mon, 29 November 2004 00:36
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Mon, 29 November 2004 00:40
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Corona RT142	Mon, 29 November 2004 00:41
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Corona RT142	Mon, 29 November 2004 07:00
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	rthy	Mon, 29 November 2004 11:06
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Sam4A-GE_Seca	Mon, 29 November 2004 11:22
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Sam4A-GE_Seca	Mon, 29 November 2004 12:08
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	nick2b	Mon, 29 November 2004 12:39
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86drift	Mon, 29 November 2004 12:48
	Re: Fucken Dick head with somthing to prove kills 3 :(	shoot	Mon, 29 November 2004 13:34
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	thu187	Mon, 29 November 2004 20:14
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Mon, 29 November 2004 22:09
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	river	Mon, 29 November 2004 22:09
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	The Count	Mon, 29 November 2004 22:09
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Corona RT142	Mon, 29 November 2004 23:10
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Corona RT142	Tue, 30 November 2004 00:10
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	rthy	Tue, 30 November 2004 00:19
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	DRiiFT_King	Tue, 30 November 2004 10:54
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	joyride	Tue, 30 November 2004 23:35
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	GIN51E	Wed, 01 December 2004 07:54
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	jesseT18	Wed, 01 December 2004 08:20
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	BlackSupra	Wed, 01 December 2004 08:41
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	skellator	Wed, 01 December 2004 08:51
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	GIN51E	Wed, 01 December 2004 12:25
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Corona RT142	Thu, 02 December 2004 22:28
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Fri, 03 December 2004 05:11
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	rthy	Fri, 03 December 2004 05:47

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