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Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'

Thu, 25 November 2004 23:50

b1gb3n wrote on Fri, 26 November 2004 04:17

lite wrote on Tue, 23 November 2004 15:38

some people on the SAU forums say that alcohol may be involved and the female passenger was 7 months pregnant.

anybody can confirm if alcohol was involved?? If so, stop taking out on p platers and being a dickhead and all!! it COULD be ALCOHOL!!

It wasnt alcohol. The guy was at home and told his family he was going "for a drive". Mistake from his mum? Maybe, but she wouldnt have noticed the difference from the sound of his R33 compared to the R34 leaving the garage. He headed out to the local BP and filled up a full tank on his credit card, buying a powerade and some smokes. The attendant says he was not drunk and in happy spirits. This is when the couple pulled up to meet him and it is alleged he followed them to the 33yo mans house where they left their car and hopped into the R34.

b1gb3n wrote on Fri, 26 November 2004 04:17

i just feel P platers are treated so unfairly. Im not a P plater btw, so this is coming frm a neutral point of view.

Unfairly? Yes, but there is every reason to. Look at the stats, insurance premiums, and even what P platers themselves say. This is enough to introduce tough laws regardless if NOT ALL P platers are moronic drivers behind the wheel. They are trying to protect them and other drivers, not hassle them because of their age.

b1gb3n wrote on Fri, 26 November 2004 04:17

Anybody know exactly where this happened? what the roads were like? Ive seen freeway under construction with everybody sticking to 40km/h!! its just ridiculous when normal speed is 100km/h.

my point is, it COULD be a wide straight road with 50km limit for some absurd reason. U guys should stop making unfound conclusion!!

disregard my signature!!

The road was a long wide straight road notorious for cars doing ridiculous speeds. This is why a proposed 50 speed limit was there not to mention suburban houses all round. Look at the crash scene, that single pole possibly saved the occupants of that house from death.

clubagreenie wrote on Thu, 25 November 2004 22:10

either of the other two could have given him a smack in the head at any time and said slow down but if he's stupid enough to do XXXKph in a 50 zone then it'd take one hell of a smack to make him pay attention.

But no, what did the other two do? they allegedly made him go faster. If anyone is the dickhead, the 33 y.o given his age and status with the pregnant woman would have told him to slow down, instead he was into fast cars as well. My point is, yes, this driver had the essence of P plater attitude, but in this situation, you cannot solely blame him for his actions, even though his foot was heavy, there was a lot of things preventable that could have been done because one needs to just expect that a P plater WILL crash with a high powered car, any car for that matter when they are peer pressured or running on adrenalin.

b1gb3n wrote on Fri, 26 November 2004 04:17

there's also a saying "never believe what u see on tv"

Ive heard first hand information and witness reports, there is enough evidence to suggest he was definitely doing the wrong thing, but this does not make him any different from P plater stereotypes. He sped, he payed the ultimate price.

All you fairies who say "one less moron on the road"; well, who are you fooling when you yourselves would have done similar acts of stupidity? (and dont tell me you havent)
Id rather defend this driver for his actions because he is just a P plater who captures everything a stereotyped P plater holds, so we just have to expect that and ask ourselves WHY this is happening. Calling him a moron is not only disrespect, but also hypocritical.

riceburna73 wrote on Fri, 26 November 2004 09:52

I really cant understand why everybody is saying stop this discrimination against P platers, why wouldnt there be descrimination when they are the highest age and licence group to kill or be killed or seriously injured in an accident..listen to half the fukked up stories in the war stories and track talk section as an example...Do you think every accident makes the news,this is happening across the country everyday..Unfortunately it is part of natural evolution to be stupid when you are young,as good a driver you may think you are the majority of young drivers dont know shit...we have to stop looking at it that hey im a safe driver and hey I just had a middle aged person cut me off so why the fukk am i getting descriminated against when i can drive better than them;...wake the fuck up! there are 20 million people in this country and on average P platers and young drivers are the more likely to fuck up big time...it will never be looked at by a case by case basis people will always be classed,there is not enough time in the day to manage 20 million individual cases and base systems and insurance around each person,if it worked that way we would pay a shit load more...we have to make an example..drive safely..be courteous,and one day in years to come hopefull we will come out of it all unscathed and look back at how much differently we perceived road safety...

100% agree.

[Updated on: Thu, 25 November 2004 23:54]

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