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Sam4A-GE_Seca Regular I supported Toymods Location: Ryde, NSW Registered: April 2004	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34' Mon, 29 November 2004 11:22 police now suspect the car was doing 180-200km/h. I'm a Green P-Plater with a love of fast cars (even though i drive a rolla sx), but i have the sense of knowing when and when not to drive in such manner. But Unforunately there are some who dont have that sense. Brining in restrictions can only do so much, a lower power car can cause the same amount of damage, but some higher powered cars have more safety features (ABS, Traction Control, stability management, airbags, etc.) Restrictions too cause problems, curfews make it hard for those honest young people who work their asses off at night to save up for a car or deposit on a house, or help the famly out to pick up a sibling. Passenger restrictions will put more cars on the road causing congestion when groups of young people go out, even more chanced of accos. Power restrictions seem to be the only "solution" but i see a few problems: One car families that have the a Commodore or Falcon. I'm an apprentice mechanic on Green P's and i work on Porsches & Other Prestige Sports Cars to make a dollar, power restrictions would make it very hard for me to do my job. Edcuation is the key, but they need to educate younger drivers on changing their attitude, not just how to drive better. Take for example a friend of mine - a red p-plater. He tears around in his Camira with poor brakes & shot suspension, he has spent more money on the sound system than on fixing its problems. Had a close call with another friend of mines car trying to race through a roundabout. He doesnt accept criticism about his driving the usual reply is "oh shut up i'm not the one who has had 5 cars and 2 accidents" My Fear is put him through an advanced driving course will make him drive more like a tool -the whole "I've done an advanced driving course therefore i can drive faster than anyone else" They need a form of driver education that teaches better car control for when something goes wrong AND how to prevent it from happening in the first place. like has been said watch a graphical video before receiving their licence. [Updated on: Mon, 29 November 2004 11:40] [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Tue, 23 November 2004 01:29
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	boris	Tue, 23 November 2004 01:31
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	ae86slaver	Tue, 23 November 2004 01:48
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	boris	Tue, 23 November 2004 01:50
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	ae86slaver	Tue, 23 November 2004 01:55
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	ae86slaver	Tue, 23 November 2004 02:01
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	AE86Boy	Tue, 23 November 2004 02:15
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	Shraka	Tue, 23 November 2004 02:37
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	Evan	Tue, 23 November 2004 02:16
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	AE86Boy	Tue, 23 November 2004 02:56
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	ae86slaver	Tue, 23 November 2004 03:13
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	ae86slaver	Tue, 23 November 2004 03:51
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	RobST162	Tue, 23 November 2004 03:55
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	riceburna73	Tue, 23 November 2004 04:03
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	Evan	Tue, 23 November 2004 04:15
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	lite	Tue, 23 November 2004 04:38
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	finney	Tue, 23 November 2004 04:49
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	b1gb3n	Thu, 25 November 2004 17:17
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR	lite	Tue, 23 November 2004 04:53
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ZZT231	Tue, 23 November 2004 05:31
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Tue, 23 November 2004 05:54
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	bathurst-91	Tue, 23 November 2004 06:25
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	TRD_Celica	Tue, 23 November 2004 06:54
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Lench	Tue, 23 November 2004 06:55
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Tue, 23 November 2004 09:31
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	finney	Tue, 23 November 2004 09:41
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	TRD_Celica	Tue, 23 November 2004 07:02
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Evan	Tue, 23 November 2004 07:36
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Evan	Tue, 23 November 2004 07:39
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	old_mr2	Tue, 23 November 2004 11:55
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	boris	Tue, 23 November 2004 12:00
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Evan	Tue, 23 November 2004 12:39
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	rthy	Tue, 23 November 2004 13:19
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86drift	Tue, 23 November 2004 13:43
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	old_mr2	Tue, 23 November 2004 14:06
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Evan	Wed, 24 November 2004 00:38
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	dimmy77_03	Tue, 23 November 2004 09:03
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Tue, 23 November 2004 10:08
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	big JON	Tue, 23 November 2004 10:54
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	draven	Tue, 23 November 2004 13:23
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	no_tofu_speed	Tue, 23 November 2004 15:55
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	no_tofu_speed	Tue, 23 November 2004 15:59
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	4DaDrift	Sun, 28 November 2004 10:19
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	rthy	Sun, 28 November 2004 10:22
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	4DaDrift	Sun, 28 November 2004 10:33
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	chrisss	Tue, 23 November 2004 18:29
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	rob_RA40	Tue, 23 November 2004 21:30
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Tue, 23 November 2004 22:35
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Hirogen	Tue, 23 November 2004 23:05
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Tue, 23 November 2004 23:44
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	clubagreenie	Thu, 25 November 2004 11:10
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	rob_RA40	Tue, 23 November 2004 21:35
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	bathurst-91	Tue, 23 November 2004 22:47
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86drift	Fri, 26 November 2004 00:08
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Toobs	Tue, 23 November 2004 22:49
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ehendrikd	Tue, 23 November 2004 23:14
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Evan	Wed, 24 November 2004 01:42
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	RWDboy	Wed, 24 November 2004 01:40
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	riceburna73	Wed, 24 November 2004 01:42
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Corona RT142	Wed, 24 November 2004 02:22
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Goose	Wed, 24 November 2004 03:21
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Wed, 24 November 2004 03:35
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Ko Ko	Wed, 24 November 2004 06:01
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	BlackSupra	Wed, 24 November 2004 09:15
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	rthy	Wed, 24 November 2004 09:29
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Hirogen	Wed, 24 November 2004 10:11
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Fujiwara_ToFu	Wed, 24 November 2004 16:24
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	driftae86	Wed, 24 November 2004 16:47
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Wed, 24 November 2004 22:37
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	AE86slut	Thu, 25 November 2004 02:08
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	rthy	Thu, 25 November 2004 02:56
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	M.J.H	Wed, 24 November 2004 09:41
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	thu187	Thu, 25 November 2004 13:56
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	clubagreenie	Thu, 25 November 2004 21:10
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	nick2b	Thu, 25 November 2004 10:32
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	BlackSupra	Thu, 25 November 2004 10:48
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	nick2b	Thu, 25 November 2004 10:59
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	BlackSupra	Thu, 25 November 2004 11:11
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	nicked	Thu, 25 November 2004 10:54
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	nick2b	Thu, 25 November 2004 11:00
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	thu187	Mon, 29 November 2004 19:29
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	79rollaboy	Mon, 29 November 2004 20:06
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	79rollaboy	Mon, 29 November 2004 20:08
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	4DaDrift	Tue, 30 November 2004 10:57
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	4DaDrift	Tue, 30 November 2004 11:02
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	nick2b	Mon, 29 November 2004 22:51
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	rthy	Tue, 30 November 2004 00:07
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	BlackSupra	Wed, 01 December 2004 07:06
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	T APLUS 22	Fri, 03 December 2004 04:14
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Evan	Wed, 24 November 2004 09:55
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	86twinky	Wed, 24 November 2004 10:10
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	BlackSupra	Wed, 24 November 2004 11:06
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	86twinky	Wed, 24 November 2004 11:30
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	BlackSupra	Wed, 24 November 2004 11:45
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	4agte	Wed, 24 November 2004 11:41
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	M.J.H	Thu, 25 November 2004 05:43
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	86twinky	Wed, 24 November 2004 12:08
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	TRD_Celica	Wed, 24 November 2004 12:42
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	scrote	Wed, 24 November 2004 14:54
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae95	Wed, 24 November 2004 17:14
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86_boy	Wed, 24 November 2004 22:24
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Goose	Wed, 24 November 2004 23:02
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Wed, 24 November 2004 23:20
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Thu, 25 November 2004 01:08
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Fujiwara_ToFu	Thu, 25 November 2004 02:04
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Thu, 25 November 2004 02:52
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Thu, 25 November 2004 03:15
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	riceburna73	Thu, 25 November 2004 03:18
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	MFX_Neko_86	Thu, 25 November 2004 10:02
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	BlackSupra	Thu, 25 November 2004 10:09
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	dimmy77_03	Thu, 25 November 2004 11:13
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	SLY16V	Thu, 25 November 2004 15:17
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	b1gb3n	Thu, 25 November 2004 17:17
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	b1gb3n	Thu, 25 November 2004 17:33
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Corona RT142	Thu, 25 November 2004 21:53
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	riceburna73	Thu, 25 November 2004 22:52
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Thu, 25 November 2004 23:50
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	nick2b	Thu, 25 November 2004 23:53
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Fri, 26 November 2004 00:15
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	justcallmefrank	Fri, 26 November 2004 01:52
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	riceburna73	Fri, 26 November 2004 00:10
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86drift	Fri, 26 November 2004 01:04
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Fri, 26 November 2004 01:15
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	driftae86	Fri, 26 November 2004 01:58
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Fri, 26 November 2004 01:29
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Fri, 26 November 2004 02:49
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	86twinky	Fri, 26 November 2004 04:40
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86drift	Fri, 26 November 2004 04:49
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	79rollaboy	Fri, 26 November 2004 05:01
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	86twinky	Fri, 26 November 2004 05:04
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	79rollaboy	Fri, 26 November 2004 05:09
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Fri, 26 November 2004 05:16
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	rthy	Fri, 26 November 2004 05:22
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86drift	Fri, 26 November 2004 05:41
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Fri, 26 November 2004 04:54
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Fri, 26 November 2004 05:35
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Greg.	Fri, 26 November 2004 11:01
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	MFX_Neko_86	Fri, 26 November 2004 11:51
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	bathurst-91	Fri, 26 November 2004 12:12
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Alchemist	Fri, 26 November 2004 12:50
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	dimmy77_03	Fri, 26 November 2004 13:15
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	HyDrA	Fri, 26 November 2004 21:29
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	GIN51E	Fri, 26 November 2004 22:44
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	rthy	Mon, 29 November 2004 01:32
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	RobST162	Mon, 29 November 2004 01:37
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	thechuckster	Mon, 29 November 2004 02:20
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	RobST162	Mon, 29 November 2004 02:22
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	79rollaboy	Mon, 29 November 2004 04:57
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Evil_Foetus	Mon, 29 November 2004 05:04
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	SLY16V	Sat, 27 November 2004 15:17
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Sun, 28 November 2004 22:29
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	4DaDrift	Mon, 29 November 2004 13:20
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Corona RT142	Sun, 28 November 2004 23:07
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Sun, 28 November 2004 23:15
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Corona RT142	Sun, 28 November 2004 23:18
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Sun, 28 November 2004 23:20
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	thechuckster	Sun, 28 November 2004 23:59
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Corona RT142	Mon, 29 November 2004 00:27
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	4DaDrift	Mon, 29 November 2004 00:36
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Mon, 29 November 2004 00:40
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Corona RT142	Mon, 29 November 2004 00:41
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Corona RT142	Mon, 29 November 2004 07:00
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	rthy	Mon, 29 November 2004 11:06
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Sam4A-GE_Seca	Mon, 29 November 2004 11:22
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Sam4A-GE_Seca	Mon, 29 November 2004 12:08
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	nick2b	Mon, 29 November 2004 12:39
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86drift	Mon, 29 November 2004 12:48
	Re: Fucken Dick head with somthing to prove kills 3 :(	shoot	Mon, 29 November 2004 13:34
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	thu187	Mon, 29 November 2004 20:14
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Mon, 29 November 2004 22:09
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	river	Mon, 29 November 2004 22:09
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	The Count	Mon, 29 November 2004 22:09
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Corona RT142	Mon, 29 November 2004 23:10
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Corona RT142	Tue, 30 November 2004 00:10
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	rthy	Tue, 30 November 2004 00:19
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	DRiiFT_King	Tue, 30 November 2004 10:54
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	joyride	Tue, 30 November 2004 23:35
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	GIN51E	Wed, 01 December 2004 07:54
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	jesseT18	Wed, 01 December 2004 08:20
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	BlackSupra	Wed, 01 December 2004 08:41
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	skellator	Wed, 01 December 2004 08:51
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	GIN51E	Wed, 01 December 2004 12:25
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	Corona RT142	Thu, 02 December 2004 22:28
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	ae86slaver	Fri, 03 December 2004 05:11
	Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34'	rthy	Fri, 03 December 2004 05:47

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