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Re: smacked up R34 GTR R.I.P. 'EVLR34' Mon, 29 November 2004 20:14 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
I remember starting out on my P's I drove MUCH worse when I had a full car AND had the music on.
I'm one of the oldest among my friends and was the first to get my P's. I remember how weird it felt driving alone for the first time. I'd gone down the street to the shops on my L's but I mean there were hardly any cars and it was just down the street. I see it the same as a father letting their son bring the car into the driveway.
I'm just thinking back and I remember bumping the kerb and my parking was a bit shaky for the first 2-3 weeks on my P's.
Here is a typical situation. You're driving home from school and you have 4 idiots in the car. They yell and scream and you have music playing and they're so excited to be in the car. You know where some of them live and then it's time to drop someone off and you've got no idea where they live. Now you have to listen to directions. You keep driving. They don't say anything.
"Which way?"
"Oh, keep going straight"
....

"Hey man, which way now?"
"Oh turn right".
Uh-oh. I'm near the end of the road and I'm in the LEFT lane. I indicate right. Nobody lets me in. I don't move my car and edge into the lane. I didn't know about sticking my hand out the window. I'm still indicating and nobody wants to let me in. Getting frustrated now. Let's move a little bit shall we? Have a look. Whoops cars coming. Damn. People are honking and getting pissed off now. The music is still playing. All my friends who can't drive are giving me advice and I want them to shut up. Let's try now.
I move into the right lane and almost hit a car and get honked at but make it. Hmmm.. my car is a lot slower with 5 people in it. The handling is different and I have to accelerate harder.
OK now I continue driving and I'm pissed off. Why the f*ck couldn't my friend tell me sooner? I'm doing HIM a favour. I don't say anything though. I just sit there. Repeatedly asking him where to go. I'm very stressed.

This all took place in about 2 minutes but stuff like this kept happening. I've never had an accident but you can see how that kind of situation could easily end up a lot worse.
I ended up telling my friends to shut up and not make noise and let me know early where I'm going. When my friend got her P's she told me that she drove a full carload of people and her friend was asking her how come your driving got so bad. She too felt shaky driving with all the extra people. She drives a brand new 206 so it didn't really affect her car that much but mentally it was very distracting for her. She couldn't pay attention to the road when her friends were asking her to change the radio station etc.
In my case I told my friends to shut up but she's a very quiet person so she just put up with it.
Luckily she's ok with it now.

The most common situation in which P platers are involved in accidents (maybe even fatalities) is when there are 2 or more passengers and music is present. Either they're not used to it or they think they're a hero.

However. If you've gone out at night, you don't want to leave your mates behind and let them catch the train or bus. Public transport can be dangerous for anyone and especially girls.

I really don't think there is a solution. Maybe encourage driving a couple of times (when the Learner is confident) with a carload of people and purposely being noisy?
When I drove my dad wouldn't let me turn on any music because he insisted I had 100% concentration. If I had gotten used to driving with music then it definitely would've made the situation of having lots of people in the car making noise more comfortable.

It comes down to experience. People can always be hoons but when you get older it's just less likely because through EXPERIENCE you know it's not worth it. If a 40 year old WAS being a hoon, his years of EXPERIENCE will see that he gets out of a situation far better than any P plater.

P platers (and I'm generalising here because I'm sure there are individuals that can drive a lot better than many people on the road) lack the experience that acts as a catalyst in their attitude to driving and road safety.
You know when you tell a 15 year old not to do something they'll go on do it anyway. To look cool or for curiosity or whatever the reason.
In the same way, people older than us - through EXPERIENCE - know that if we get hold of high powered monsters we will want to trash the shit out of them. By limitting our ability to get behind the wheel of them, it WILL save lives.
Is it really that big an ask anyway? It's only a 3 year wait.
Neko said if you tell someone they can't drive a high powered car until they are off their P's:
1. It might be like learning to drive again because of the totally new experience in power and
2. They will just wait even longer (once they get their full license instead of Provisional license) to speed.

It may be like learning to drive again but they will have been driving for 3 years. With this will bring a change in attitude and improved skills.
After they get on their full license, with far more than 6 months experience behind them they will be better equipped to handle a high power car and I personally think that desire for speed will be overcome by a sense of responsibility.

While I don't believe in curfew and passenger restrictions, I am all for imposing power restrictions on P platers.

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