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Re: RTA's initiatives on (red) P platers and L'earners

Sun, 05 December 2004 17:56

wolf wrote on Mon, 29 November 2004 20:57

1. Increasing the mandatory period of supervised driving for Learner drivers from 50 hours to 100 hours.
2. Increasing the minimum period as a Learner driver from six months to 12 months.
3. Increasing the age for P plate licenses to 18 years.
4. Further developing formal driver training.
5. Providing an increased role for secondary schools in driver training.
6. Improvements to the on-road test to progress from a Learner to a P plate driver.
7. A limit of one passenger for P1 drivers aged under 26, with exemptions.
8. Prohibiting P plate drivers from driving high-powered vehicles, with exemptions.
9. Modifying the demerit point structure for young drivers.
10. Introducing a night driving restriction, with exemptions.
11. A requirement for 15 hours of night driving for Learner drivers.

1. Yes. Some parents really don't have the time to teach their children. Not everyone can afford $3,000 (100x$30) to teach their kids how to drive. Oh well, at the end of the day we're getting better drivers on the road.
2. I don't think this HAS to be done. As people will struggle to complete 100 hours in 6 months anyway. I did 120 in about 5 though so there ya go Razz

3. Not really necessary. I don't think there's much of a difference. Also, this will mean some people will get their P's halfway through uni. There is more time to go out and get drunk and do stuff etc. after year 12 so it'd be better if they got some experience under their belt before uni.
4. This is like saying "Let's make our roads safer". HOW? If they mean making the P practical test more extensive then yes, I agree.
5. Yeah I guess so.. although the kids that want to speed and show off aren't going to listen to their teachers. I think that site that's hosted on bigpond with all those totaled cars and some kind of video that will scare them (hopefully) into behaving is in order.
6. See number 4. (what does number 4 mean then? Confused

)
7. Are you kidding? People are definitely mature by 24. That's 6 years after they're 18 and potentially 7 years of driving experience. If they are going to be under pressure driving with passengers at 24, they shouldn't be driving. Anyway, it's just not feasible. This reminds me the government makes a lot of its import rulings based on the environment. If they're going to limit the passengers this means MORE CARS ON THE ROAD and that means MORE POLLUTION!! What if you have a brother and you're both going to the same party and your family only has one car. What if the passenger is your mum or dad? What if your parents are running late and they need you to pick up your baby sibling? What if you're a father and you don't want your daughter and her friends going home via public transport. I can come up with so many 'what if's?'. This is an incredibly stupid idea. They didn't put much thought into it.
8. Fair enough. Maybe set a lowish limit (not sure what it would be) for the first year and increase it a bit after that.
9. In the UK, if you accumulate 6 demerit points in a year you go back to your L's. Maybe you should have to go back one license level. This means if you're on your red P's you'll have to back to your L's and if you're on your greens you're going to have to wait another 3 years for your full license. I'm pretty sure this would deter people from doing stupid stuff. Also being older on your greens, reverting back to a red P still gives you the ability to drive.
10. What if you work late at night? I guess this would be part of the exemptions, you could get some kind of permit like in the USA. What happens though about getting home late at night. Public transport can be dangerous and in our wonderful state you can't even be sure there will be trains. Exempt from driving at night? Forget about it!
11. Yeah go hard.

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