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Location: Newcastle
Registered: May 2002
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Re: 2TG verses 4AGE Facts !
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Fri, 31 May 2002 06:18
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Here we go again! OK here's my two cents worth. Sure formula atlantic engines knock out big numbers, cool, it lets us know what the extreme upper limits of the engine are, given a huuuge budget (for development not the cost of the engine itself), limited performance envelope etc. But that doesn't mean that other engines couldn't acheive similar results given the same circumstances. If you made a VW engine the basis for a LARGE BUDGET open wheel formula (formula Vee is not large budget) it would probably get some amazing numbers also. In fact look at what Some VW engines are getting, with what is inherently a shit design. So I don't think Formula Atlantic is a fair comparison. I can see Rod's point, alot of the stuff on 4AGE's is a marketing ploy, not to say it isn't good, just not automatically better. Let's face it, if you advertised a new performance car with a carburettored, pushrod, eight valve, cast iron engine, who would buy it? Not me! Even if it did work really good. You see the same thing with the Nissan CA to SR engines. They lost the shim under bucket design to rocker arms, they went belt to chain, all the stuff that Joe public doesn't care about. But they kept the cool 16valve thing (even if it only has eight cams). So I reckon the best comparison is on the street (or of it with street rego'd cars) and in that comparison the 2TG does a great job.
Also remember the 4TGTE. How much did that have compared to a turboed 4A? Most of the factory development on the "T" motors was for turbo, which is the opposite of the "A" motors.
But I had a 2TG, and now I'm building a car for a 4A, so I'm hoping they are better!
ps. I don't really care, it's just an interesting argument.
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