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Re: Intercooler piping Mon, 13 December 2004 04:09 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
SupraPete wrote on Mon, 13 December 2004 14:45

Special Ed wrote on Mon, 13 December 2004 14:05

Some of the best 1j exhaust systems now incorporate a 4 inch section after the turbo, big volume there = big HP.


Big volume is great! If it was cold *I* believe it'd be even better. I can't see why high heat (and velocity) would be a good thing (after the turbo). Theres always going to be restrictions on the pipe like cat/muffler.


it's a balancing act.
when you loose heat in an exhaust, you loose both volume (higher density) and velocity, and the properties of the gas change...
friction with a surface is higher with a more dense gas, but velocity also increases friction Wink. you also change the speed of sound in the exhaust gas, but post turbo, this is not a big deal (it is for NA cars)

think of it this way.... take 2 syringes and fill one with water, and the other with chocolate topping. now squirt them both... water is easier to squirt as less resistance... but if you squirt the water faster, there will be more resistance...
same for hot/cold gas.

i also agree that cat/muffler are large restrictions, but by then, the temp and velocity will have decreased markedly anyway (compared to pre/post turbo)

basically we are talking about a 3fold increase/decrease of gas volume.... if someone wants to do some fluid flow calculations (based on straight pipe and normal wall friction), please do Smile

Cya, Stewart
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