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Re: drug tests
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Tue, 14 December 2004 15:12
 
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| gianttomato wrote on Tue, 14 December 2004 17:51 |
| gianttomato wrote on Tue, 14 December 2004 14:36 |
....chronic users are six times more likely to develop schizophrenia than non users....
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Just to satisfy you Norminator, add this qualifier:
"all other things being equal."
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 very kind of you, gt, but i think we're actually in almost total agreement with our respective opinions. my point was, that there are many factors involved in this, and many of these are equally poorly researched. you pointed this out, also. so, we're left to draw assumptions... as you know, if we're up for waiting on "100% concordance," then we're up for a damn long wait. this, however, does not afford us the luxury of taking our assumptions as fact.
as for "potentially modifiable risk factors," you're right that we can't do a lot about our genetics, but i am of the opinion that psychological/physical abuse, and many other possible environmental variables are very modifiable, just like smoking pot is. and i will reiterate, there is a lot more to developing schizophrenia than just genetics, or just smoking pot, or even genetics and smoking pot in combination. all we've done here is establish that pot can be part of the problem, and genetic material can be part of the problem... we still do not understand the problem all that well.
perhaps the predisposition for schizophrenia is the reason they smoke pot? i'm not saying this is what i beleive, but i'm trying to get across to you that this is a supremely complex problem, and not something that can be brought back to the "lowest common denominator" (not a denominator that we are aware of at this stage). i think you know this already, anyway.
and if you think a few hours in the Emergency Department with someone suffering mental illness is taxing, try living with one of these amazing individuals for a few years... i hope the medical profession isn't too conceited to recognise the vast experience and knowledge harboured with the loved ones of people living with this type of condition?
and once again, thank you for the links, gt. it's a great site for anyone wishing to learn about schizophrenia.
definitely the most interesting thread i have read on toymods for a long time.
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draven | Mon, 13 December 2004 08:51 |
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mxchris69 | Mon, 13 December 2004 08:52 |
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draven | Mon, 13 December 2004 08:53 |
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matt_84 | Mon, 13 December 2004 08:58 |
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Conquest | Mon, 13 December 2004 09:32 |
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dimmy77_03 | Mon, 13 December 2004 09:41 |
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gianttomato | Mon, 13 December 2004 10:53 |
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thechuckster | Mon, 13 December 2004 11:45 |
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jackel | Mon, 13 December 2004 16:32 |
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toof | Mon, 13 December 2004 21:13 |
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gianttomato | Mon, 13 December 2004 22:12 |
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draven | Tue, 14 December 2004 06:21 |
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gianttomato | Mon, 13 December 2004 18:13 |
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draven | Mon, 13 December 2004 19:23 |
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Norminator | Tue, 14 December 2004 01:34 |
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gianttomato | Tue, 14 December 2004 03:36 |
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ed_ma61 | Tue, 14 December 2004 04:10 |
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Norminator | Tue, 14 December 2004 04:55 |
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gianttomato | Tue, 14 December 2004 06:51 |
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thu187 | Tue, 14 December 2004 07:12 |
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thechuckster | Tue, 14 December 2004 07:51 |
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gianttomato | Tue, 14 December 2004 08:12 |
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Norminator | Tue, 14 December 2004 15:12 |
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Cool1 | Mon, 13 December 2004 21:47 |
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tomartom | Mon, 13 December 2004 23:11 |
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riceburna73 | Mon, 13 December 2004 23:44 |
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ed_ma61 | Tue, 14 December 2004 00:51 |
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gianttomato | Tue, 14 December 2004 04:53 |
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thu187 | Tue, 14 December 2004 07:09 |
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nick2b | Tue, 14 December 2004 06:22 |
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lumpy | Tue, 14 December 2004 22:38 |
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ed_ma61 | Tue, 14 December 2004 12:04 |
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boris | Tue, 14 December 2004 13:22 |
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gianttomato | Tue, 14 December 2004 22:41 |
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Tommo | Tue, 14 December 2004 10:28 |
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Nolan | Tue, 14 December 2004 11:05 |
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