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river Forums Junkie Location: Land of Oz Registered: June 2004	Re: WTF is Oldschool?! Sun, 02 January 2005 09:43 Hi, thu187 wrote on Sun, 02 January 2005 19:24 river wrote on Sun, 02 January 2005 19:19 Hi, It depends if you view terms like "Old School" as a relative or absolute measure. It all depends where you put your measuring stick. seeyuzz river Exactly what I was saying. It's subjective and therefore it depends on your own personal interpretation of what old school is and thus people will always see old school as different. Before we even get into defining what era is old school we're faced with two meanings of the word. Defining the era (ie. old school is a time) or using it as a synonym for just old. Exactamondo! In the case of the Celica, Corolla, Crown and Corona it is easier to define "Old School" because these particular models have (or had) a long lineage of different shapes and styles as the models progressed (or digressed, depending upon your tastes and point of view). I've seen the word "Classic" thrown about a lot, and, in regards to the Celica range, it is usually meant to mean RWD Celicas. This is further refined by "Old School" which refers to the 1st Generation Celicas. These cars had the original shape and style which started the marque. So, in the case of the Celica, I think it's fairly straightforward to define "Old School". I think this could also apply to the Corolla range which started before the Celica and is still going. Now, in the case of (say) the Supra, it gets a little muddy. If you term "Old School" as the original style/shape that defined the car, then I s'pose one could call the 1st generation Supra as "Old School Supra", which, compared to the later models it probably is. However, when we use the term old school collectively against an entire range of cars... ie, "Old School Toyota", then we get the big differences of opinion. So, do we define "Old School" across a sweeping range of all models, such as "Old School Toyota", or do we categorise each vehicle model separately, such as "Old School Supra" or "Old School MR2"? In any event, I use "Old School Celica" to define the 70-77 Celica, 'cos it had the original shape and all the charm that seems to ooze from these older style cars. When using "Old School" across a range of vehicles, I tend to use chrome-bumpers and other defining characteristics that put the vehicle in the range of 70-77. There is some unquantifable essence in the shape, style, look and design of the vehicles of this period. From the late 70s there appeared to be a change in vehicles across the world as more plastic and rubber was used, black rubber bumpers... then "colour coded" bumpers and other design changes that, to me, sort of lost the romance of the previous styling. I remember being able to tell just about every model of car, from a distance, by their distinctive style. Now however, everything seems to look very similar and the individuality of cars have melded into some homogenous globalised style. I've noticed the new Mustang has gone "retro" in its styling. Possibly trying to recapture that essence that made the marque in the first place. I'd like to see how it sells, 'cos if it sells well, I'd like to see what Toyota would produce (if they so desired) in terms of retro-looks for their Celica. seeyuzz river [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	WTF is Oldschool?!	CLG	Fri, 31 December 2004 10:21
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	EldarO	Fri, 31 December 2004 10:27
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	gianttomato	Fri, 31 December 2004 10:28
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	gianttomato	Fri, 31 December 2004 10:28
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	EldarO	Fri, 31 December 2004 10:38
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	old_mr2	Fri, 31 December 2004 10:44
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	EldarO	Fri, 31 December 2004 10:46
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	old_mr2	Fri, 31 December 2004 10:53
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	ae86drift	Fri, 31 December 2004 11:15
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	peeack	Fri, 31 December 2004 13:17
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	EldarO	Fri, 31 December 2004 13:30
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	Cool1	Fri, 31 December 2004 17:36
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	river	Fri, 31 December 2004 21:33
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	fade-e	Fri, 31 December 2004 23:12
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	rsdeo	Fri, 31 December 2004 22:23
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	Tommo	Sat, 01 January 2005 00:25
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	b1gb3n	Sat, 01 January 2005 05:14
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	fade-e	Sat, 01 January 2005 05:24
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	jesseT18	Sat, 01 January 2005 07:22
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	Tommo	Sat, 01 January 2005 07:44
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	Cool1	Sat, 01 January 2005 07:50
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	Apollo	Sat, 01 January 2005 10:34
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	Benjamin	Sat, 01 January 2005 08:25
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	jesseT18	Sat, 01 January 2005 09:52
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	Cool1	Sat, 01 January 2005 10:35
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	fade-e	Sat, 01 January 2005 11:09
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	Apollo	Sat, 01 January 2005 11:52
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	thu187	Sat, 01 January 2005 12:38
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	Cool1	Sat, 01 January 2005 12:54
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	EldarO	Sat, 01 January 2005 17:34
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	b1gb3n	Sat, 01 January 2005 20:46
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	Shraka	Sat, 01 January 2005 17:12
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	justcallmefrank	Sun, 02 January 2005 00:22
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	Evil_Foetus	Sun, 02 January 2005 00:44
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	b1gb3n	Sun, 02 January 2005 02:42
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	CLG	Sun, 02 January 2005 02:47
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	CrUZsida	Sun, 02 January 2005 08:15
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	river	Sun, 02 January 2005 08:19
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	thu187	Sun, 02 January 2005 08:24
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	river	Sun, 02 January 2005 09:43
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	Fujiwara_ToFu	Sun, 02 January 2005 13:27
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	Toobs	Mon, 03 January 2005 05:02
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	Classique71	Mon, 03 January 2005 06:05
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	joyride	Wed, 05 January 2005 21:23
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	gold28	Tue, 11 January 2005 03:32
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	CLG	Tue, 11 January 2005 15:46
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	davedrifts	Thu, 13 January 2005 05:35
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	CrUZsida	Wed, 12 January 2005 00:52
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	Tommo	Thu, 13 January 2005 07:32
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	Clown	Thu, 13 January 2005 07:36
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	torque	Thu, 13 January 2005 09:39
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	Clown	Thu, 13 January 2005 14:39
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	ViPeR_NiPPleX	Fri, 14 January 2005 01:29
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	pro_ke	Sat, 15 January 2005 04:30
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	matt_84	Sat, 15 January 2005 06:18
	Re: WTF is Oldschool?!	davedrifts	Sun, 16 January 2005 02:43

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