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Location: Melbourne
Registered: June 2004
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Re: Camry SV21
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Thu, 13 January 2005 06:43
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CS-X wrote on Thu, 13 January 2005 17:02 | ShiRi i respect your opinion and understand that. but thats what pushed me to put slight mods on the car. i am by no means treating it like a sports car. but you say
"it was NOT realised as a sports car and as such, should NOT be treated as one."
>most cars that are done up are not sports cars.
i just wanted to see what i can get out of the car, and do something original, unlike a VL or say Lancer. and to me thats more rewarding. if i wanted a sports car i would of got one. but i wanted something with space, reliable and good on fuel. i go away alot and the boot in the camry is very large considering the size of the car. and i can see why people think its a waste of time, but as i said i wanted something original, and i am very happy with what i have. although i am already planning to get a 4x4 Hilux, but thats another story.
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most cars that are done up are realised as sports cars in a way. When a car company realises a 'sports' car its a fine line between sports and crap... Fine you can sa y that you average lancer is a piece of shit... granted it is... but whether u like it or not, mitsubishi realised the evo... which uses the lancer platform and is such a sports car. The civic? You have you're type R and VTI-R which were both advertised as sports cars. You can mod a CXI with a B16A and still have AS good as
'sports' car as the VTi-R> it's a same for the lancer BUT! There is no market for a sports version of the camry, you can argue that the sportivo is, but no... you're wrong, the new corolla's aren't sports cars either even with a sportivo package... echo's aren't either... Sorry to upset all you owners of these cars but these cars will never, ever, EVER be seen as sports cars off the production line.
So why is it ppl with KE70's reckon they have a sort of sports car? The KE70's first realise was that of a sports car for the average man... its the same as the 260z... allthough the 260z was a pure sports car, the ke70 had a level of practicality for city/daily driving. If you look at old KE70/1 adds you will see that there is a fun, fast, sports feel to the ads. It's the same with the AE86 and TE70's. The camry has no such ads... i'm sure u've seen that add with the sportivo camry rolling around the mountains at what seems like a decent pace... This is nothing more than a vain attempt to appeal to joe public who thinks harder springs and 10kw make a massive difference in sports performance, Mr Joe Public who wants a Porsche Boxter but will never afford one. Have you ever seen one of those cars in the mountains? you have no chance of keeping up with any other sports car off the produciton line. Even the new celica's (as crap as they are) would destroy you! Why? Their chassis was made for it... their suspension was made for 'sports' and so was everything else in the car. Camry was not... and never will be.
This again isn't an attack on you im saying htis to everyone... I respect your decision to mod your car.. it's good to see that car modding is extending its reach to cars such as the camry... it'll be a fantastic day when i see camry's that have been lowere, fitted wiht FMIC's and have 19" volks on them... i would love to see it... but the owner should be under no illusion that the car they drive is a sports car... it's still a camry...
[Updated on: Thu, 13 January 2005 06:46]
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