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Re: effect of running forced induction with standard ecu on VVT motor Sun, 16 January 2005 09:41 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Sam_Q wrote on Sun, 16 January 2005 17:05


I have to disagree with you on a few things Kyosho,

yes a programable ecu would be the way to go but thats not what he asked about.

Also I think often a stardard internals engine can handle some boost if it is tuned well. I bet that 4G15 pinged, or had an oil problem.

Also I have seen a Honda that was running sub 10s with standard camshafts in it. Ask the yeanks what they think about hondas and turbos, they love them both.


The 4G15 did not ping, nor did it have an oil leak.
A rising rate fuel reg is not really sufficient... You will generally get a lean spot, followed by a rich spot, or vica versa...
A rising rate reg is VERY hard to tune by on its own.


As for your honda running sub 10s...
Lots of Hondas that are out, ARE NOT VTEC, some of the best Cams for Forced induction, are fuel conservative, N/A cams...
Huge N/A cams are useless, too much overlap and you start to blow everything out of the exhaust...

So your Honda you seen running low 10s, it may of been a normal cam, (Non-vtec) and hence, would of been quite good, as it is built to rev, and not have too high of an overlap

As for my recommendation on the ECU, that was pure guidance...
I wouldn't want to be trying to run a stock engine on boost at all as they are not designed for it...
The 4G15 managed to blow it self apart on 5Psi...

On another note...
Turbo engines, when on boost run in the 12s for AFR, a stock ECU is programmed to tune back to 14.7 (By way of the O2 sensor)
When you start to lean out past 13.5, you come into problems with the fuel burning too hot, and that is when rings and tops of pistons start to disintegrate...
So to avoid this, you will need to tune with the O2 sensor disconnected, and then you will encounter days where it will be a bit rich, and others it will be lean. Just like an old carby motor...
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Read Message   effect of running forced induction with standard ecu on VVT motor JAZESat, 15 January 2005 21:05
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