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Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?

Mon, 17 January 2005 06:35

alliance_22 wrote on Mon, 17 January 2005 14:19

i always had a dream

what if!!

What if toyota pulled back out the designs of the ae86, Celica St162-165, supra MA70 and manufacture say 1000 each of them....

then upgrade some things, like air bag and all that crap to do with compliance etc.... chuck in a bit of new designs interior, Sun roof, climate control etc. And then sell them to the younger generations for say 15k-25k range... u bet i'll be buying one!

Thing is if they are only making small amounts, they can do both ways a favour, they can keep us all happy, yet they will still make some money... altho0ught maybe not much, but it'll prolly give them an indication on just how important sporty cars are for the younger gens.

But then again, i doubt i'll ever see this day happen Rolling Eyes

With Nissan, i used to be a fan of it, till they stopped releasing 200sx and skylines and started pumping out Maximas and Pulsars.... i mean what a load of crap!! wheres the damm GTRs and SR20DET Silvias?? As if i'll drive a freekin Maxima cause its advertised as a 170kw car, and hoping we think its a sport car... get a life nissan - Australia!! not knocking the Nissan in Japan though Very Happy

Also, whats the Deal with Honda?? Why WHy why why why kill the Type R just cause of the freeking marketing purposes?? What point does that honestly make?? Now i cant tell the difference between buying a luxury integra and bying the so called Type S.... just that one has like 30KW extra.... wheres the Recaros?? Wheres all those good bits that used to be on the type R?? and WTF??? 43K for a Luxry sporty verion type S?? get a life!!

when i was planning on buying a new car, i wanted a COUPE... 2 door COUPE.... and its amazing that only so little is on the market....

Nissan: 350Z (60K Cant afford that)
Misut: Nothing
Subaru: Nothing
Mazda: RX8 (60K Not worth it) - personal opnion, looks shit to the RX7s
Ford: Nothing
Holden: Astra convertable (Again 50-55K)- Even then u have to think if its a sports car
Toyota: Eco, Celica and Mr2
BMW: Cant afford, look away
Merc: Ditto
Audi: Ditto

The only one out of the lot that may intrest me is the Celica, at least it gets a half decent shell that looks sporty and with a decent enough price range!!... would have been tops if it was a RWD.... So i guess Toyota isnt as bad as what others is.. still got some afordable fast cars.... but nothing like before man...

Celica ST162-165 3SGE and 5S-FE - Sleek looking, got the grunts, not expensive, although 5S-FE for the 185 is a step down from 3S-GE me thinks.
Supra MA70 - Got Shit loads of grunt, good looks, but dearer
MR2 SW20 - Shat hot looks, "3S-GE", got grunts, WOOT RWD!!

im sure theres also others ppl know are good cars, but on top of my head, these were tops!!

I want to know how a Toyota Echo made it into your coupe sport car list and a 2 door STi didn't. You also forgot the MX5, the only affordable brand new sports car in my opinion. Alot here seem to say that you aren't too fussed about power as you are it being fun and good handling. The MX5 has probably better handling than anything Toyota ever brought out, but they are not exactly flying out of dealerships are they? You will never see a sports car under 40k new in Australia, you've got low spec WRX's, MX5's and V8 Holdens and Fords thats about it. Fast = expensive, if it costs 25k to get ahold of a new Corolla, imagine how much a turbo car would cost as it needs nearly every component strengthened to handle the extra power reliably. Anyone remember the turbo model corolla released a few years back? It was around 40k (wrx money) and it tanked hard. It was slow and handled like crap.

You guys are also forgetting that USA is the biggest export market for Japanese cars and the low end consumer market they despise RWDs and feel they are too unpredictable in icy conditions every winter. While real enthusiasts over there enjoy RWD, they certainly wouldn't be buying brand new economy sports cars. The Australian new car market is small and it is controlled by an older market segment that wants reliable boring cars that won't stick out too much and make their friends think they are show off cock heads. Toyota is the most successful car company in the WORLD, I say we enjoy our cheap second hand imports and be happy that our import laws aren't as strict as in other countries like the US.

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