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Re: Why wont Toyota create a new gen Rwd-Vvti-sprinter?

Mon, 17 January 2005 11:12

4DaDrift wrote on Sun, 16 January 2005 17:09

shcao wrote on Sun, 16 January 2005 11:23

it's all about supply/demand/cost

FWDs are cheaper to produce for toyota, (which passes on to the consumer)
have more cabin space for the passenger.
are perfectly fine (stability wise) for 4 cylinders.

Toyota is happy, *most* consumers are happy.
Thats all that matters.

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Toyota aren't going to spend millions of dollars developing a car for a *niche* market who are mostly young and can't afford to be driving a brand spanking new $30k++ car.

Lets face it, anything with guts, decent suspension and LS will be nothing less than 30k..

I think the day and age for a budget 4cyl rwd is over.

daym that attitude pisses me off
what ever happened to buyer power for staters
we are the market in the past now and for their future so they should be listening to us with what we want and not etlling us what they want us to buy
secondly its not that hard to product a cheap rwd with performane aspirations
build the base level as the new corolla with base level performane etc to start with
secondly this will attract a new younger parket to replace those who are nearign the edn of their lives
thirdly with the ammount of $$ the young generation spend on a new car (seriously think about how many of your friends associates etc and ppl you hear owing huge amounts of $$ for new or near new cars turned into show cars or daily drivers) as if a market isnt there
we should be demanding what we desire not whinging about whats alcking amd yes ive done my bit by forwarding a letter of complaint

Damn your attitude pisses me off. You say buyer power meaning consumer sovereignty. You've raised an excellent point:
They should be listening to us with what we want and not telling us.
HOW EXACTLY DO THEY DO THAT?

Does Toyota ring you up and say "Hi how was your day? What kind of car should we make for you?". NO!
The way we tell companies what we want is through what we BUY or DON'T BUY.
MR2 Spyders, they're not selling very well are they? This means Toyota Motor Corporation sees it as the Australian public not liking this kind of car -- so WHY sell it?!
Corollas, Camrys etc. ARE selling well. The Australian public loves them. Just so you know this is the Australian CAR BUYING public. The people that actually keep Toyota going. Not you or I who buy second hand cars. In case you didn't know, Toyota doesn't profit from the buying and selling of second hand vehicles.

Next, you're talking about how much young people are spending on modding their cars. Ok.. great. Just how many of these cars are NEW?
How many of these people do Toyota know? None. What they know is based on the sales figures.

Your third point that we should send letters COMPLAINING to Toyota makes me laugh. Hey Toyota you suck, make some RWD cars for us Toymodders and the like but don't worry about profit. You don't need it because you've got our love instead.
Nope, doesn't work that way. Just forget that you're making more money than any other car company. Sacrifice your profit for a tiny market that will love you forever and ever but won't actually buy your cars. Instead they will hope that lots of people purchase these cars and then try and buy them second hand.

I don't understand why it's so hard to see why Toyota won't bring out what you want. They are making money now and why stop a good thing? They have a responsibility as a company to themselves and to their shareholders. Amazing as it is, people who want to drift aren't on their minds 24/7.

If you want to show Toyota demand for RWD Toyota's, save your money and get out there and buy NEW MR2's or Altezzas. Be part of the new car buying public. Don't blame Toyota.

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