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improvedae86
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Re: AE86 Brake kit. Massive.	Fri, 28 January 2005 12:41

I think that "kit cars" engineering vs modification engineering might be two different subjects , just like the crazy "hot rod" engineering which allow all kinds of modifications which are not allowed on any other vehicles . As normal is best to check in your state with relevant roads departement and engineers . I was just stating this conversion vs the other brake conversion that have been done , is it really worth the money ? Or does a early model toyota really need to be fitted with brakes worth at least the same value as the car . Not to add the other modifications which would be required to get the car to a level where stopping power of that level would be required . Lets face it most ae86's will never be stopping at over 100ks per hour anyway , so add large piston / high coefficient pads and the stopping / brake reaction time might made such large brakes below standard systems in some areas . Lets just look at the problems facing vehicle braking at very high speeds , for example , F1 cars are running booster assistants at speed over 200ks {most teams} this is done to increase the pedal pressure power at these speeed . This is done to decrease the stopping distance at the 300 > 200ks range , then under these speeds as the downforce isn't as great the high pedal pressure of the booster assistants would make locking of the wheels easy as well as poor pedal feel / less driver feel . Then if you where to go a down to say a v8 supercar which way would you set up a this equation ? for balance of the car when braking , and the fastest reaction time , since its mostly under 200ks . 1. Front brakes : large piston caliper / large master cylinder rear brakes : smaller piston caliper / large master cylinder 2. Front brakes : large piston caliper / small master cylinder rear brakes : smaller piston caliper / small master cylinder 3. Front brakes : large piston caliper / large master cylinder rear brakes : smaller piston caliper / small master cylinder 4. Front brakes : large piston caliper / small master cylinder rear brakes : smaller piston caliper / larger master cylinder I think the answer would surprise a few people , who is going to take a guess ? The rules of brake is not always BIGGER is better to a level , there are lots of engineering rules which are always changing as are ways of increasing stopping . That kit and those american blocks un-finned alloy with spacers just inserted for different width discs just look so old school compared to the calipers being produced here i just cannot see the point . [Report message to a moderator]

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