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680OST Regular Registered: August 2004	Re: thoughts on barrel coolers??? Wed, 02 February 2005 11:29 shinybluesteel, the 4" barrels have the same number of tubes as a 250mm high 73mm tube and fin A/A cooler, and the 6" barrells actually have MORE tubes than a 300mm high 73mm thick cooler, so before you go mouthing off at someone becuase they didin't put a T on the end of a word, how about YOU get some remote idea about what you are talking about man, talk about high horses!!!! Now if we use for example the 6x10" barrel rated at a supposed 600hp, which I have fitted under the bonnet of my 1G Ke70 corolla, you will see that they will have sweet FUCK ALL pressure drop, as there is more tubes for the air to pass through than a conventional 600x300x73mm front mount, AND the tubes are only 10" long, so the air has less friction and less distance to push through, less than half actually, so once again a LOT LESS pressure drop. In fact, I think even the shittly little 4" tubes would have less pressure drop than a conventional 600x300x73mm front mount. BUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In my exprerience so far, they simply don't work!! I have only been making around 450hp at the flywheel on this supposed 600hp cooler, and have a radiator in the front of car TWICE the size that they recommend or that come in their kit, and I also have their latest pump that flows nearly DOUBLE what the kit used to come with, and on a dyno pull, the lowest we can get the inlet temps is around 63 degrees. On cruise it is awesome, it sits on 40 degrees, no matter what, idle light traffic, high speed, its always consistant, but give it a hit and it goes straight up to 63 after a few seconds. I even have a dry ice tank that holds 8 litres of water, it has a 4" tube that sits down into it, about 300mm deep, that the dry ice packs into, it is sealed from the water so you don't get all the bubbling and fizzin going on, but trust me, it gets pretty cold!!! For interests sake, we turned the engine off and packed the tank with dry ice, keeping the water pump running, and kept doing this for around 8-10min, we got the water temp in the cooler system down to about -2 degrees on a digital guage, started the car up and did a pull pretty much straight away, the car on boost a liiittttle bit quicker, maybe 200rpm down low, but the inlet temp still shot straight up to 56 degrees, I think thats pretty crap when you consider the water temp is near zero. I basically think they don't have a long enough distance to pull the heat out of the air in a high hp engine, they do do the job, but so far, not very well in my engine. I'm going to try playing arund with different cooling mediums in the system and see if it improves, and also try a bigger Davies Craig engine water pump, which is twice as big again, and see how it goes, the whole system has cost me about $2500 so there is no way in hell i'm giving up yet!! I'll try and keep you posted if you'd like?? Cheers.........................6BOOST [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	thoughts on barrel coolers???	jcmunga	Wed, 02 February 2005 07:32
	Re: thoughts on barrel coolers???	YelloRolla	Wed, 02 February 2005 07:44
	Re: thoughts on barrel coolers???	jcmunga	Wed, 02 February 2005 07:55
	Re: thoughts on barrel coolers???	shinybluesteel	Wed, 02 February 2005 07:46
	Re: thoughts on barrel coolers???	680OST	Wed, 02 February 2005 11:29
	Re: thoughts on barrel coolers???	jcmunga	Wed, 02 February 2005 11:38
	Re: thoughts on barrel coolers???	680OST	Wed, 02 February 2005 11:35
	Re: thoughts on barrel coolers???	Allan	Wed, 02 February 2005 11:43
	Re: thoughts on barrel coolers???	jcmunga	Wed, 02 February 2005 11:46
	Re: thoughts on barrel coolers???	oldcorollas	Wed, 02 February 2005 11:55
	Re: thoughts on barrel coolers???	thechuckster	Wed, 02 February 2005 12:17
	Re: thoughts on barrel coolers???	shinybluesteel	Thu, 03 February 2005 04:07
	Re: thoughts on barrel coolers???	Allan	Wed, 02 February 2005 11:52
	Re: thoughts on barrel coolers???	YelloRolla	Thu, 03 February 2005 05:24
	Re: thoughts on barrel coolers???	680OST	Thu, 03 February 2005 22:34
	Re: thoughts on barrel coolers???	680OST	Thu, 03 February 2005 22:43
	Re: thoughts on barrel coolers???	shinybluesteel	Thu, 03 February 2005 23:45
	Re: thoughts on barrel coolers???	Joshstix	Thu, 03 February 2005 23:55
	Re: thoughts on barrel coolers???	680OST	Fri, 04 February 2005 02:14
	Re: thoughts on barrel coolers???	oldcorollas	Sun, 06 February 2005 11:40
	Re: thoughts on barrel coolers???	MS-75	Fri, 04 February 2005 20:38
	Re: thoughts on barrel coolers???	680OST	Sun, 06 February 2005 11:15
	Re: thoughts on barrel coolers???	shinybluesteel	Sun, 06 February 2005 11:42
	Re: thoughts on barrel coolers???	fatboy	Mon, 07 February 2005 06:42
	Re: thoughts on barrel coolers???	YelloRolla	Mon, 07 February 2005 06:56
	Re: thoughts on barrel coolers???	fatboy	Mon, 07 February 2005 08:00
	Re: thoughts on barrel coolers???	680OST	Wed, 09 February 2005 08:36
	Re: thoughts on barrel coolers???	jcmunga	Wed, 09 February 2005 08:57
	Re: thoughts on barrel coolers???	mrshin	Wed, 09 February 2005 12:14
	Re: thoughts on barrel coolers???	MS-75	Thu, 10 February 2005 07:59

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