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Re: EOI - Easter Event	Thu, 03 February 2005 08:04

Rod, PLEASE show me where Toymods Car Club, or any individual forum user has fed back through ANY channel, negative or discouraging advice about the plan to ... 1. relocate the Nats (I believe it was your members suggestion in the first place (remember the wakefeild discussion.) 2. Make Tamworth the new location. Most that I can find or remember are merely enquiries, or outright support for a move to new venue, and then positive feedback about what could be available in Tamworth. A requirement of organising an event like this is that your organisers take some part in the organising itself. Otherwise obviously that person is not an organiser. The organiser you mentioned has not contacted the 2005 Organising Committee through any means other than this forum - under a pseudonym - since the last Toyota Nationals. Where, I might add, they made unconsidered promises of new events without engaging any demcratic process with the committee. It is also after this "organisers" interactions with local Dubbo sponsors that they were less than helpfull for the following year. FWIW in recent times they have been ignoring enquires from new Canberra locals as to suggested events for the easter weekend. (Yes even the Toymods one). To address a few other issues which have been raised... 1. that the nats is not necesarilly a social/fun event hence the need to offer an alternative social event. This year the Nats is PURELY social. Only show and shine is in anyway competitive, all other events are non cometitive outings designed to be fun. 2. That Tamworth is an excessively long drive. Tamworth is exactly 404 km from castle hill. Dubbo is 393 km from castle hill (source travelmate.com.au). I hope I dont need to expand on that regarding sydney competitors. As for interstate, Queensland traditionally has been the largest interstate supporters of the Nats throughout its history, Whilst it does represent a longer drive for the southerners, they have had it good for quite some time (being even closer than sydney in some cases in the past). 3. That it is an expensive weekend. This year costs are at their lowest in a long time, less than $100 would get you to show your car, friday welcome dinner, sunday presentation dinner + a t shirt. Surely that could not be seen as exessive. Sponsorship is not the problem, Timing was. Toyota Corporate have changed the support structure for events such as these and as our intending major sponsor, could not give us the support we needed in time to secure the venues and permits required for motorsport. In future years this will not be a problem and we will return to an event which incorporates motorsport. On the weekend of the Toyota Fest show, Grant, Dave and Myself were away on a daytrip to meet with sponsors and facities in Tamworth AT OUR OWN EXPENSE. It was a long day but very productive, gaining sponsors and the suppoort of TSCC, Tamworth City Council, Tamworth Tourism,Tamworth Toyota and the Tamworth regional Police Area Command. They were all very welcoming and accomodating - the kind of place the event could grow and return more to its competitors. As the Toyota Nationals is a non - profit organisation, we rely on word of mouth advertising, internet forums, and the goodwill of past attendees to spread accurate information. Constant reminding and pressure from Toymods regarding our "Free Advertising", suggests that it is Toymods who wish to benefit financially from this community event, by charging us money to advertise and adding to our costs, which must be passed to competitors in the end anyway. We do try to maintain a webpage for the information of competitors, though as we are not lucky enough to have highly skilled web designers on the committee and with mainly armchair critics looking on, we are lucky to have a few volunteers to help us out, a huge commitment from Alchemist has significantly aided us here, thanks very much Nathan ! In that respect we ask that you please consider that to have an amazing web presence would probably result in amazing increases in costs to the competitors, and we understand cost is the number one factor when considering to attend potential events. You suggest that the current event is unlike the "Toyota Nationals" of old, when in fact the 2005 format is closer to the traditional event than has been held in a couple of years. For most of the 25 + year history of Toyota Nats, the format has been a largely social one, Motorsport is a recent addition. The proposed 2005 format is a return to events from the past which have since been heralded as "the best ever" despite a lack of formalised motorsport events. Anyhow, the Nats are gathering momentum. Final arrangments in place and I would like to take this opportunity to thank those people who have been supportive. Descisions such as we have had to make are not easy, trust that we the organising committee have only your best interests at heart and are looking forward to another great time this year in Tamworth. See you there. [Report message to a moderator]

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