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Re: TA22 Celica - V6 Conversion
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Sun, 06 February 2005 00:27
 
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I'd be another who'd steer clear of the commonwhore motor-(I'd go for an all alloy prado V6 personally)
HOWEVER.....
For the right price I reckon it'd be a great conversion. As to how it would fit into a celica-my guess is it would be fine as the engines aren't DOHC and so are fairly compact, and in addition, it should be a bit shorter than the stock 4cyl. You may even find you can achieve a passable weight distribution as the 3.8 powertrain should have a CofG that's lower and further back than the original. Combine that with stuffing it as far back and as low as possible and you may be surprised at the weight dist. Making up your own engine mounts isn't too hard-you just need access to a welder, or to someone who will weld for you. Alternatively you could go extra simple and use an engine plate to mount it.
At minimum you'll need the following bits-
Larger radiator
(go to the wreckers with a tape measure-if the drivetrain was rediculously cheap or free you are hereby banned from spending any more cash than is absolutely needed!!!=-)
Engine mounts
-easy-just use nice thick material and some urethane bushes.
Sump mods
-to suit celica engine bay (may not even be required-but if they are-its again just a case of getting out the welder and hacksaw and going for it-sump mods are super simple-it's just a bucket that holds oil!!)
Gearbox crossmember
-grab the one off the commie if you can as a good starting point and butcher away.....
Tailshaft
-this will need to be a custom item from a professional workshop-200 to 400 bucks or so.
Diff
-you can keep the stock one, but it may shit itself in short order with the huge torque boost. However, for cheapness, the stock diff with a welded centre would be good-And if it's auto the celica rear end will last a whole lot longer. (and yes I know a welded centre is illegal, but I have owned one and they are fine-however rather rough......)
If you put the commodore one in you will need to do a fair bit of work (more than fitting the engine even!) and have the housing and axles modified. However, it will allow you to use appropriate gearing-3.5 or something around there. (I think the stock 4.11 or whatever it is will be a bit too short-it will launch hard though....)
New fuel system
-you'll need to fit a return line to the tank and a high pressure pump, along with a lift pump and swirl pot. You can pick up a suitable lift pump from supercheap for fuck all (just a low pressure, electric pump meant for carbied cars), and buying a new high press pump for 180 or so is cheap insurance (VL ones are good for external surge setups-the VN has an intank one which is no use to you without significant work on your existing tank)
Wiring the ECU
-self explanatory. Get a VN wiring diag and go for it-shouldn't be too bad-and there is enough knowlege on the net about 3.8 transplants for someone to be able to help you if required.
That should be most of it, apart from stuff like hoses, clamps etc. I tend to think you could get it going for 500-800bucks (on top of eng purch price) if you do as much of it yourself as you can.
Should make a nice car to drive-especially if you fit a taller diff ratio.
Once it's in there-maybe two 1GGZE blowers on 4-5 psi could be the go?????????
I expect weekly progress reports.
Sean
Adelaide
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quest | Sat, 05 February 2005 23:28 |
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peterb | Sat, 05 February 2005 15:32 |
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MS-75 | Sun, 06 February 2005 00:27 |
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Cool1 | Sun, 06 February 2005 00:51 |
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Norbie | Sun, 06 February 2005 03:05 |
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brett_celicacoupe | Sun, 06 February 2005 03:18 |
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Norbie | Sun, 06 February 2005 03:33 |
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4agte | Sun, 06 February 2005 03:44 |
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hemi twofifteen turbo | Sun, 06 February 2005 04:51 |
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Cool1 | Sun, 06 February 2005 21:23 |
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mrshin | Mon, 07 February 2005 13:16 |
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hemi twofifteen turbo | Tue, 08 February 2005 07:49 |
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Norbie | Sun, 06 February 2005 08:05 |
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Cool1 | Sun, 06 February 2005 08:08 |
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hemi twofifteen turbo | Sun, 06 February 2005 13:25 |
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Cool1 | Mon, 07 February 2005 13:19 |
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chrisss | Mon, 07 February 2005 14:26 |
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Cool1 | Tue, 08 February 2005 07:51 |
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river | Tue, 08 February 2005 09:45 |
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jesseT18 | Tue, 08 February 2005 10:01 |
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river | Tue, 08 February 2005 10:17 |
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TA-022 | Tue, 08 February 2005 11:45 |
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mrshin | Tue, 08 February 2005 13:04 |
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