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Re: Exhaust Myth... Fact or Fiction?
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Wed, 09 February 2005 09:36
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Fr3aK wrote on Wed, 09 February 2005 20:11 |
Matt-itude wrote on Wed, 09 February 2005 19:29 |
Now, would the engine run its best with no exhaust pipe at all? or am i missing something?
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Good question.
Look at a 4 second 1/4 mile dragster. They only have the extractor primaries.
Look at an old Spitfire WWII fighter jet. Only have the primaries!
Long story short: Yes. But big pipes make this difference negligible for road cars.
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actually.. no.. not necessarily..
the extractor primaries you speak of are TUNED to a specific length, and being only a primary will work in a very specific rpm range.. by adding other pulses to an extractor system, you widen the effective rpm range in which they help.
if you had similarly tuned pipes, your car would work in that small rpm range (maybe 500-1000rpm?), but outside that, it would only be benefiting from the reduced backpressure (), whereas when you add the secondaries and collector, you are amplifying the exhaust assistance
for the dragster, it's a packaging thing.. even if they had 2-1 exhaust pairs, it would be a packaging nightmare!! considering the volume of exhaust and the small rpm range the work in (and the physical thrust they produce), short tuned length primaries, pointing upwards, are the best solution.
same for the WW2 planes, the engines are bloody large enough already, and the pipes may not even be long enough to be tuned as such, but again, the packaging makes it difficult to have a more complicated exhaust.
for road cars, it is only the noise and toxicity of exhaust that requires the use of an exhaust system (extractor-back)..
i think the main thing with large exhausts (past the end of the tuned section) is that they sound terrible (imho).. AFTEr the tuned section, going larger may not decrease power as much as you would think, but will increase noise...
Cya, Stewart
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Exhaust Myth... Fact or Fiction?
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Matt-itude | Wed, 09 February 2005 08:13 |
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Kyosho | Wed, 09 February 2005 08:24 |
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Matt-itude | Wed, 09 February 2005 08:29 |
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Fr3aK | Wed, 09 February 2005 09:11 |
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oldcorollas | Wed, 09 February 2005 09:36 |
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Kyosho | Wed, 09 February 2005 09:34 |
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oldcorollas | Wed, 09 February 2005 08:47 |
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Matt-itude | Wed, 09 February 2005 08:51 |
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oldcorollas | Wed, 09 February 2005 08:57 |
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towe_001 | Fri, 11 March 2005 12:23 |
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draven | Wed, 09 February 2005 08:37 |
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Matt-itude | Wed, 09 February 2005 08:43 |
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oldcorollas | Wed, 09 February 2005 08:49 |
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Farkurnell | Wed, 09 February 2005 09:30 |
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Kyosho | Wed, 09 February 2005 09:36 |
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oldcorollas | Wed, 09 February 2005 09:40 |
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oldcorollas | Thu, 10 February 2005 05:22 |
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oldcorollas | Thu, 10 February 2005 07:45 |
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oldcorollas | Thu, 10 February 2005 07:57 |
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oldcorollas | Fri, 11 February 2005 05:24 |
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