Toymods Car Club
www.toymods.org.au
F.A.Q. F.A.Q.    Register Register    Login Login    Home Home
Members Members    Search Search
Toymods » General Car Talk » What should i get next....

Show: Today's Posts  :: Show Polls 
Email to friend 
Return to the default flat view Create a new topic Submit Reply
AuthorTopic
improvedae86
Forums Junkie


Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
January 2003
 
Re: What should i get next.... Tue, 15 February 2005 00:42 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Heres some info on the st rally car :

http://www.rallycars.com/Cars/Toyota_GT4/Street_Ce lica_ST165.html

After working on st's all i can say is there a very well build car which i don't think you would get much lighter . Sad
Not to mention that the suspension geometry is for a front/four wheel drive operation , and has no great room for any easy modifications to get the amount of camber , or more importantly in a heavy car caster . The front suspension would be a pain in the ass to get to the car to handle and to have the amount of steering lock close to Simons ae86 . And the front suspension relationship to the rear might be such a balance that changing the front makes the rear unstable . Then if you look at the Weight distrubution F/R: 59/41 and figure moving more drivetrain mass into the front , it could have a center of mass very far foward .

But really someone of nissansilvia didn't have a bad idea . Since there seems to be large amounts of money being spend buy some Holden related industry's into Drift now , why not approach the opposition .

Lets look at this Holden vs Ford .
Well suspension which is really the key to the drift speed and cost to set up . The front suspension there really is not comparison , the V8 supercars of Holden use the Ford front suspension since there are since producting old MacPherson strut designs in there road cars . Ford has moved to a front double wishbone suspension , well its not a real double wishbone set up more a duel arm located strut like the Honda's / Merc's of ten years ago . Its still a good system and large camber and caster easily changed without the need of altering the lower arm and ackermann angles . Then onto the rear , the Holden has Control-Link Independent Rear Suspension (IRS). Semi-trailing arm , Progressive rate miniblock coil springs , Stabiliser bar , yes well it had that years ago directly pulled off the Opel Omega's , it looks like a copy of say a 80's bmw . That rear system needs huge modifications to change any angles and really isn't very easy without changing components . Now the Ford system independent rear suspension with multi-link Control Blade , yes a long lower arm to control large amounts of torque compared to the Holden . Maybe after years of having the live axle with the control arms coming to behind the front seats on the race cars they thought it was a good idea on a road car .

Then if you add lots of used supercars parts teams etc , maybe he was going in the right direction Smile




  Send a private message to this user    

SubjectPosterDate
Read Message   What should i get next.... Simon-AE86Mon, 14 February 2005 06:16
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... optionUPMon, 14 February 2005 06:34
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... EvanMon, 14 February 2005 06:41
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... Simon-AE86Mon, 14 February 2005 06:41
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... CrUZsidaMon, 14 February 2005 06:45
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... Simon-AE86Mon, 14 February 2005 06:49
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... CrUZsidaMon, 14 February 2005 06:54
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... MR 1JZMon, 14 February 2005 08:01
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... ArchMon, 14 February 2005 08:13
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... Classique71Mon, 14 February 2005 08:41
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... MR 1JZMon, 14 February 2005 08:53
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... smt_007Mon, 14 February 2005 09:12
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... MR 1JZMon, 14 February 2005 12:40
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... xolentMon, 14 February 2005 09:18
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... ae86driftMon, 14 February 2005 10:31
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... Cool1Mon, 14 February 2005 10:33
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... Cool1Mon, 14 February 2005 12:43
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... MR 1JZMon, 14 February 2005 12:52
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... improvedae86Mon, 14 February 2005 12:51
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... Cool1Mon, 14 February 2005 12:55
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... MR 1JZMon, 14 February 2005 13:20
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... Cool1Mon, 14 February 2005 13:22
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... MR 1JZMon, 14 February 2005 13:24
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... Cool1Mon, 14 February 2005 13:25
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... thu187Mon, 14 February 2005 14:55
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... ArchMon, 14 February 2005 21:04
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... Cool1Mon, 14 February 2005 21:17
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... MR 1JZMon, 14 February 2005 22:44
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... Cool1Mon, 14 February 2005 23:59
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... MR 1JZTue, 15 February 2005 00:10
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... TRD_SupraMon, 14 February 2005 22:44
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... justcallmefrankTue, 15 February 2005 00:35
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... Cool1Tue, 15 February 2005 00:39
Read Message   Re: What should i get next....  improvedae86Tue, 15 February 2005 00:42
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... Cool1Tue, 15 February 2005 01:11
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... improvedae86Tue, 15 February 2005 04:04
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... EnFlaMEdTue, 15 February 2005 05:44
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... Cool1Tue, 15 February 2005 08:40
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... wagonistTue, 15 February 2005 01:12
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... Dodgy_HaroTue, 15 February 2005 02:14
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... justcallmefrankTue, 15 February 2005 02:17
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... MR 1JZTue, 15 February 2005 02:20
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... Simon-AE86Tue, 15 February 2005 02:33
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... finneyTue, 15 February 2005 02:54
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... soaringmikTue, 15 February 2005 03:06
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... boostjunkieTue, 15 February 2005 03:51
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... SkaneyTue, 15 February 2005 07:31
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... improvedae86Tue, 15 February 2005 11:21
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... shcaoTue, 15 February 2005 13:06
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... Cool1Tue, 15 February 2005 21:13
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... improvedae86Wed, 16 February 2005 00:04
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... Cool1Wed, 16 February 2005 00:58
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... gianttomatoWed, 16 February 2005 01:08
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... MR 1JZWed, 16 February 2005 01:55
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... ae86slaverWed, 16 February 2005 02:28
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... ae86slaverWed, 16 February 2005 02:29
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... Purple_BeastyWed, 16 February 2005 00:28
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... AllanWed, 16 February 2005 01:09
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... improvedae86Wed, 16 February 2005 02:07
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... Cool1Wed, 16 February 2005 02:29
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... TurboRA28Wed, 16 February 2005 02:19
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... DeViL rOlLaWed, 16 February 2005 02:33
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... Cool1Wed, 16 February 2005 03:04
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... Cool1Wed, 16 February 2005 03:07
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... improvedae86Wed, 16 February 2005 06:04
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... Cool1Wed, 16 February 2005 06:57
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... improvedae86Wed, 16 February 2005 07:47
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... M.W.P.Wed, 16 February 2005 07:59
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... MR 1JZWed, 16 February 2005 08:10
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... Cool1Wed, 16 February 2005 08:41
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... improvedae86Wed, 16 February 2005 11:25
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... improvedae86Wed, 16 February 2005 08:01
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... Simon-AE86Wed, 16 February 2005 10:51
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... Evil_FoetusWed, 16 February 2005 11:47
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... xolentWed, 16 February 2005 12:13
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... muaythaimanWed, 16 February 2005 21:56
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... Patr1cSun, 20 February 2005 02:38
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... Jag7799Sun, 20 February 2005 15:16
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... digitalpho3nixSun, 20 February 2005 16:56
Read Message   Re: What should i get next.... JoshstixSun, 20 February 2005 22:00
Previous Topic:JDM RA23/28 Bonnet mirrors...
Next Topic:MR2club.com.au down?

Goto Forum:
-=] Back to Top [=-

Current Time: Thu Apr 3 17:04:54 UTC 2025

Total time taken to generate the page: 0.0056931972503662 seconds

Bandwidth utilization bar

.:: Contact :: Home ::.

Powered by: FUDforum 2.3.8
Copyright ©2001-2003 Advanced Internet Designs Inc.