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matt86sx Regular Location: Gold Coast, QLD Registered: April 2004	Re: hello! toyota are releasing an AWD Turbo camry! Tue, 22 February 2005 02:29 Toyota's problem at the moment is that they don't have any kind of image builder in their range. Looking at their sales figures I suppose one could argue that they don't really need to have one, since an image building car is usually good for getting people into the showrooms and buying cars. Their lack of an image machine was very much in evidence at the recent Brisbane motor show - most other manufacturers had at least one car in their range that enthusiasts and young kids would drool over (or at least a sports car of some kind), while the Toyota stand was just plain boring. For example: Holden - Monaro, HSV range, Torana concept, Monaro GTS-R concept Ford - FPV range, GT (modern GT40 supercar) Mitsubishi - Evo VIII Subaru - WRX, Liberty Turbo and the list goes on. By contrast, the Toyota stand consisted of Echos, Camrys, Avalons, RAV4's and Landcruisers. Plus one single solitary butt-ugly white open-top concept car that I have forgotten the name of because I could only bear to look at it for two seconds in total. We all remember when Toyota was selling Celicas, MR2s, Supras and GT4s here when we were kids, and these are the cars we own now. The other manufacturers with their desirable cars (as listed above) are capturing kids imaginations now and in 5-10 years time when they go to buy a car they'll have a brand loyalty built up based on the cool cars of thier youth (something Holden has developed to perfection with HSV since 1988, and even further back with HDT). In a few years time, nobody is going to equate "Toyota" with "performance", unless the F1 programme bears some fruit and flows down to the road cars. At least that's where I see things heading. My $0.02 -Matt [Updated on: Tue, 22 February 2005 02:30] [Report message to a moderator]

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