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Blown86 Regular Location: Perth Registered: July 2002	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE Fri, 04 March 2005 10:55 The car may have more front grip relative to the rear, this doesn't mean that overall grip is better with stiffer spring rates. Generally the rule has always been if you go too stiff, you reduce grip. Too stiff reduces suspension travel which creates problems absorbing bumps and can spear a car off the road. It massively reduces wet road grip and feeds loads into the chassis it was not designed for. Knowing the structural integrity of an AE86 I have no doubt that part of the perceived gain with stiff springs is chassis twisting which is bad, you have uncontrolled suspension effect at work. At least a well designed structural cage is needed for stiff springs. My 5 minute expert comment was not directed at age at all, I know young blokes that know more than me. I also know older blokes that "think" they know everything. It's a question of attitude. It is patently obvious that some people need to actually study the dynamics of suspension from the comments they make. I know a doctor of Mechanical Engineering, a consulting Mech Eng with 40 years experience and plenty of other well qualified people who actually build race cars and serious road cars who never post in threads like this because they couldn't be bothered dealing with ignorance brought on by lack of understanding. [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	Tien HA vs Tien HE	MR 1JZ	Wed, 02 March 2005 13:48
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	Simon-AE86	Wed, 02 March 2005 14:05
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	MR 1JZ	Thu, 03 March 2005 01:11
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	bbaacchhyy	Thu, 03 March 2005 01:20
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	bbaacchhyy	Wed, 02 March 2005 20:41
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	MR 1JZ	Thu, 03 March 2005 02:04
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	bbaacchhyy	Thu, 03 March 2005 02:12
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	AE86slut	Thu, 03 March 2005 02:28
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	MR 1JZ	Thu, 03 March 2005 02:39
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	MR 1JZ	Thu, 03 March 2005 02:31
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	Simon-AE86	Thu, 03 March 2005 02:09
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	bbaacchhyy	Thu, 03 March 2005 02:29
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	AE86slut	Thu, 03 March 2005 02:30
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	Simon-AE86	Thu, 03 March 2005 02:41
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	ae86drift	Thu, 03 March 2005 02:45
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	bbaacchhyy	Thu, 03 March 2005 02:51
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	AE86slut	Thu, 03 March 2005 02:58
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	bbaacchhyy	Thu, 03 March 2005 03:11
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	Yian	Fri, 04 March 2005 04:25
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	MR 1JZ	Fri, 04 March 2005 04:34
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	AE86slut	Thu, 03 March 2005 03:32
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	nabs478	Thu, 03 March 2005 09:31
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	MR 1JZ	Thu, 03 March 2005 11:11
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	takai	Thu, 03 March 2005 12:04
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	Simon-AE86	Thu, 03 March 2005 12:11
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	ae86drift	Thu, 03 March 2005 12:39
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	takai	Thu, 03 March 2005 12:41
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	ae86drift	Thu, 03 March 2005 12:47
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	takai	Thu, 03 March 2005 12:50
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	MR 1JZ	Thu, 03 March 2005 12:58
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	Blown86	Thu, 03 March 2005 13:50
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	bbaacchhyy	Thu, 03 March 2005 20:47
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	Blown86	Thu, 03 March 2005 22:51
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	bbaacchhyy	Thu, 03 March 2005 22:55
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	ed_ma61	Fri, 04 March 2005 02:41
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	EldarO	Fri, 04 March 2005 02:24
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	bbaacchhyy	Fri, 04 March 2005 02:31
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	MR 1JZ	Fri, 04 March 2005 02:57
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	bbaacchhyy	Fri, 04 March 2005 03:39
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	MR 1JZ	Fri, 04 March 2005 03:52
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	Simon-AE86	Fri, 04 March 2005 04:36
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	MR 1JZ	Fri, 04 March 2005 04:39
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	Blown86	Fri, 04 March 2005 10:55
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	Yian	Fri, 04 March 2005 21:11
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	hamgatan	Tue, 22 March 2005 06:34
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	MR 1JZ	Tue, 22 March 2005 09:48
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	hamgatan	Thu, 24 March 2005 01:43
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	MR 1JZ	Thu, 24 March 2005 03:23
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	hamgatan	Thu, 24 March 2005 05:11
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	Driftspec	Thu, 24 March 2005 03:16
	Re: Tien HA vs Tien HE	MR 1JZ	Thu, 24 March 2005 05:38

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