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Re: 2x Toyota Celica Grp A Rallye's on Ebay

Tue, 15 March 2005 03:58

Squid wrote on Tue, 15 March 2005 14:01

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Nah dude they were all pre-ordered. All of the 150 that came to australia have a plaque like that.

According to the original toyota brouchure they ALL have this plaque.

THE WITZL wrote on Thu, 03 March 2005 14:37

Note also how it appears that your shroud there has been CUT to show that gold plaque, and not that well either. Showing that it is a post manufacture addition.

Yes they were added post manuf. These plates were only added to the Australian car and the plastic was cut post prod in Australia (in many cases poorly).

THE WITZL wrote on Thu, 03 March 2005 14:37

My friend has a ST185 grpA, it is genuine, and it does not have this plaque, and has never had this plaque AFAIK

Was it Australian delivered? It is unlikely if it hasn't got the plate.

However several situations may develop in which an Aust delivered car may not have this plate.

*Removed as part of accident damage.
*Replacement plastic fitted covering plate.
*Removed in rally conversion.
*Never fitted by the delivering dealership. (i know people who work for Toyota, forgetting stuff like this happens)

I don't know why Witzl didn't say it was me he was talking about.

No there is no plate... not even hidden under a new shroud.

Yes it is genuine (all the required parts exist and the VIN is on "the list")

Yes it is Aus delivered. (as above + more)

No the plate hasn't been removed (there is no drill holes where the plate was supposed to go)

Unlikely that it was removed due to accident damage as I have looked very closely at that area when I removed the front bar for a respray... I aslo spent a lot of time around that area stuffing around with the water spray thingy.

Quite possible that it was simply never fitted... this could be due to a number of things.
1. Dealer "lost" the plate or ran out of blanks.
2. Dealer forgot to install the plate.
3. I assume the plate had to be sent somewhere to get stamped with the name so the buyer would either have to come back to get it fitted or wait to pick up the car... if the customer didn't return to get the plate then I doubt Toyota would chase you down with a big stick telling you you must have the plate.

I know of one other Group A that is definately genuine but does not have the plate... No. 39, Colour Red, Last known location Launceston TAS, VIN# JT764STJ500015768

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