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THE WITZL Forums Junkie Toymods Social Secretary Location: Sydney Registered: July 2002	Re: more commadore bagging joy Fri, 29 November 2002 00:02 COMMODORE'S ARE NOT RACE CARS, NOR ARE THEY A PERFORMANCE CAR!! honestly, people who think that commodore's "perform well" are misguided. THey have the chassis characteristics of a bus, the response of a retarded sloth, the cornering of a , the engineering of a 30yr old car and the overall deisgn of a turd. I know im going to get some falred up responses here, but honestly, commodore's are a family car, you cannot even THINK they are a performance vehicle. Ok there are HSV's and whotnot, yes they have some good performance, but look at some proper performance vehicles like skylines, supras and even the cheap-as-a-base-model-commonwhore 200SX!!!! They eat them! And sale's are nothing to go by. more than 50% of commodore and falcon sales are made up of company cars and taxi's. Now lets remove those and compare. Then most people by them becuase they are big, and cos its a an aussie icon. Really most people purchase them because they cannot look beyond the blinker that they are wearing, and see other cars at the same or cheaper price that are far superior vehicles. take this example: My dad owns a nice 2001 model Audi A4 Quattro, the last of the 130kW AWD 1.8L turbos. I was in the car riding with him a few months ago drving up the blue mountains, through all the twisty crap. Some wanker in his "performance" V8 slug HSV (not a clubsport) tries to do some retarded maneuvre around us and ends up cutting us off. This pisses off my dad and I tell him "man, you need to show that guy what a real car is dad!" So my da drops back a few cogs and flattens that car around a corner. Now this guys was flying around each bend sqeeling most of the way around. Within two corners we caught up a 500m gap with ease... get up next to the guy mid corner, wave, and then put the foot down more and continue flying around the corner while he is struggling. Needless to say we didnt see him until the straight section at the top of the hill when he goes past at 140 or so. Price conparison: HSV Senator $77k HSV Clubsport (which this was NOT) $55k Audi A4 quattro 1.8T $68k i know where my money would go. [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	more commadore bagging joy	wizzfizz2097	Mon, 07 October 2002 01:36
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	draven	Mon, 07 October 2002 02:01
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	SupraBOY	Tue, 08 October 2002 12:01
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	justcallmefrank	Tue, 08 October 2002 15:13
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	SupraBOY	Wed, 09 October 2002 11:59
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	BoB_JonEz	Fri, 08 November 2002 13:38
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	juzzo84	Sat, 09 November 2002 01:35
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	CelicaLuva	Sat, 09 November 2002 09:44
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	ra23celicachick	Sun, 10 November 2002 21:56
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	mrsmart	Mon, 11 November 2002 10:50
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	alwaysRA23	Tue, 12 November 2002 02:22
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	ra23celicachick	Tue, 12 November 2002 06:27
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	mc1j	Tue, 12 November 2002 12:09
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	mrsmart	Wed, 13 November 2002 11:37
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	biased99	Thu, 14 November 2002 01:28
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	THE WITZL	Fri, 29 November 2002 00:02
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	draven	Fri, 29 November 2002 04:55
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	THE WITZL	Fri, 29 November 2002 05:03
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	draven	Fri, 29 November 2002 05:36
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	THE WITZL	Tue, 03 December 2002 05:28
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	rvrolla	Mon, 16 December 2002 12:09
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	katsuchiyo	Mon, 16 December 2002 14:09
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	mrsmart	Tue, 17 December 2002 09:23
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	justcallmefrank	Tue, 17 December 2002 09:40
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	draven	Tue, 17 December 2002 10:21
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	Fat_KE70	Tue, 17 December 2002 12:46
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	leebroozlee	Sat, 21 December 2002 14:51
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	Apollo	Sun, 22 December 2002 12:21
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	quick 6	Sat, 28 December 2002 07:21
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	89 MX83	Sun, 22 December 2002 12:49
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	leebroozlee	Sun, 22 December 2002 13:54
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	SPEEDCORE	Sun, 22 December 2002 22:45
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	Apollo	Mon, 23 December 2002 07:19
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	manipulate	Sat, 28 December 2002 07:33
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	quick 6	Sat, 28 December 2002 09:37
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	draven	Sat, 28 December 2002 13:34
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	wizzfizz2097	Sat, 28 December 2002 14:08
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	leebroozlee	Wed, 01 January 2003 15:26
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	THE WITZL	Wed, 15 January 2003 05:53
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	fOOZ86	Wed, 15 January 2003 21:44
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	feral4mr2	Sat, 18 January 2003 07:29
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	feral4mr2	Sat, 18 January 2003 07:32
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	3S-GE_Man	Sat, 18 January 2003 10:07
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	7mgte83	Mon, 20 January 2003 12:56
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	leebroozlee	Mon, 20 January 2003 13:11
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	needacar	Tue, 21 January 2003 07:55
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	sikmr2	Wed, 29 January 2003 15:29
	Re: more commadore bagging joy	Apollo	Wed, 29 January 2003 23:57

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