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RWDboy Forums Junkie Location: South Australia Registered: July 2002	Re: Physics problem. Thu, 24 March 2005 07:20 Depends on your perspective. If you are standing outside and watching the collision occur then you will see two cars collide and stop from 50km/h. Using ye old KE = (0.5)mv^2 then you can see that if both cars are travelling at 50km/h and weigh the same then the energy of the impact is simply 2 * the energy of one car stopping from 50km/h - so an outsider would think. However if one car from 100km/h stops then the energy is FOUR times the energy of one car stopping from 50km/h. Or so an outsider would think. Now - if you are INSIDE one of the cars, and you stop from 50km/h to 0km/h then only difference between hitting another car travelling in the opposite direction and hitting a brick wall (from the same speed) is the *peak* force your body experiences. Energy transfer wise both collisions are the same, measuring the forces is a little bit of a pain because it changes so erratically as different things absorb the energy and transform the energy in different ways and the deceleration is rarely consistent. The force experienced in the collision is hugely dependent on the deceleration rate and how smooth the deceleration vs. time curve is (ie how close (delta)a is to zero at any given time during the collision). The energy of the collision is REALLY easy to work out, but the force experienced is VERY hard so to compare the two collisions based on their forces - I would MUCH MUCH MUCH rather be in a car hitting another car going 50km/h towards me (going 50km/h) than hitting a brick wall at even 70.7km/h (an equivalent energy collision). [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	Physics problem.	Squid	Thu, 24 March 2005 03:43
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	Re: Physics problem.	Squid	Thu, 24 March 2005 03:50
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	Re: Physics problem.	Norbie	Fri, 25 March 2005 07:14
	Re: Physics problem.	Intensevil	Thu, 24 March 2005 04:25
	Re: Physics problem.	Corona RT142	Thu, 24 March 2005 04:31
	Re: Physics problem.	Squid	Thu, 24 March 2005 04:34
	Re: Physics problem.	Indi	Thu, 24 March 2005 04:42
	Re: Physics problem.	BlackMR2	Thu, 24 March 2005 04:32
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	Re: Physics problem.	Dust	Thu, 24 March 2005 05:34
	Re: Physics problem.	Norbie	Thu, 24 March 2005 05:39
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Thu, 24 March 2005 05:57
	Re: Physics problem.	BlackMR2	Thu, 24 March 2005 05:58
	Re: Physics problem.	IRA11Y	Thu, 24 March 2005 06:04
	Re: Physics problem.	IRA11Y	Thu, 24 March 2005 06:07
	Re: Physics problem.	EnFlaMEd	Thu, 24 March 2005 06:33
	Re: Physics problem.	SPRINTAH!	Thu, 24 March 2005 06:30
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Thu, 24 March 2005 06:43
	Re: Physics problem.	SPRINTAH!	Thu, 24 March 2005 07:47
	Re: Physics problem.	IRA11Y	Thu, 24 March 2005 08:13
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Thu, 24 March 2005 08:57
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Thu, 24 March 2005 06:33
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Thu, 24 March 2005 06:42
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Thu, 24 March 2005 06:54
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Thu, 24 March 2005 06:49
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Thu, 24 March 2005 07:20
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Thu, 24 March 2005 07:44
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Thu, 24 March 2005 13:42
	Re: Physics problem.	CrUZsida	Thu, 24 March 2005 08:39
	Re: Physics problem.	CrUZsida	Thu, 24 March 2005 08:59
	Re: Physics problem.	NeiGH	Thu, 24 March 2005 09:51
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Thu, 24 March 2005 10:01
	Re: Physics problem.	Alex120	Fri, 25 March 2005 11:49
	Re: Physics problem.	86DRFT	Thu, 24 March 2005 12:22
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Fri, 25 March 2005 01:42
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Fri, 25 March 2005 08:16
	Re: Physics problem.	b1gb3n	Fri, 25 March 2005 02:37
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Fri, 25 March 2005 08:40
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Fri, 25 March 2005 09:10
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Fri, 25 March 2005 09:22
	Re: Physics problem.	gabe	Sat, 26 March 2005 00:46
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Sat, 26 March 2005 00:58
	Re: Physics problem.	RobertoX	Wed, 30 March 2005 05:40
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Wed, 30 March 2005 06:35
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Fri, 25 March 2005 10:42
	Re: Physics problem.	Alex120	Fri, 25 March 2005 11:45
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Fri, 25 March 2005 12:40
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Fri, 25 March 2005 22:50
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Sat, 26 March 2005 01:47
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Sat, 26 March 2005 02:16
	Re: Physics problem.	gabe	Sat, 26 March 2005 02:59
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Sat, 26 March 2005 01:53
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Sat, 26 March 2005 03:21
	Re: Physics problem.	IRA11Y	Sat, 26 March 2005 03:29
	Re: Physics problem.	Squid	Tue, 29 March 2005 03:48
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Sat, 26 March 2005 03:29
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Sat, 26 March 2005 03:33
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Sat, 26 March 2005 03:41
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Sat, 26 March 2005 04:13
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Sat, 26 March 2005 04:24
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Sat, 26 March 2005 04:47
	Re: Physics problem.	IRA11Y	Sat, 26 March 2005 05:04
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Sat, 26 March 2005 05:26
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Sat, 26 March 2005 06:06
	Re: Physics problem.	tom210	Sat, 26 March 2005 06:52
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Sat, 26 March 2005 06:56
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Sat, 26 March 2005 07:02
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Sat, 26 March 2005 07:05
	Re: Physics problem.	tom210	Sat, 26 March 2005 07:19
	Re: Physics problem.	jackel	Sat, 26 March 2005 07:23
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Sat, 26 March 2005 07:39
	Re: Physics problem.	tom210	Sat, 26 March 2005 07:28
	Re: Physics problem.	Norbie	Sat, 26 March 2005 09:47
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Sat, 26 March 2005 10:10
	Re: Physics problem.	Norbie	Sat, 26 March 2005 10:12
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Sat, 26 March 2005 10:21
	Re: Physics problem.	EldarO	Sat, 26 March 2005 11:37
	Re: Physics problem.	Norbie	Sun, 27 March 2005 02:02
	Re: Physics problem.	EldarO	Tue, 29 March 2005 16:41
	Re: Physics problem.	tom210	Sat, 26 March 2005 12:46
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Sat, 26 March 2005 12:53
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Sun, 27 March 2005 02:36
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Sun, 27 March 2005 03:15
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Tue, 29 March 2005 04:41
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Tue, 29 March 2005 05:50
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Tue, 29 March 2005 12:07
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Tue, 29 March 2005 21:05
	Re: Physics problem.	79rollaboy	Tue, 29 March 2005 21:20
	Re: Physics problem.	RobertoX	Wed, 30 March 2005 00:19
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Wed, 30 March 2005 00:42
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Wed, 30 March 2005 04:40
	Re: Physics problem.	RobertoX	Wed, 30 March 2005 04:49
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Wed, 30 March 2005 04:57
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Wed, 30 March 2005 13:47

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