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RWDboy Forums Junkie Location: South Australia Registered: July 2002	Re: Physics problem. Fri, 25 March 2005 08:16 skellator wrote on Fri, 25 March 2005 12:12 well, im not sure about the energy bit, but i have confirmation from two (out of two) fellow yr12 physics students, so far, that a car in a collision between two (identical) cars travelling 50km/h in opp directions will experience the same deceleration force as one car colliding with a wall at 100km/h note that the above is assuming that all energy is used to decelerate the cars, and that the wall is immovable and indestructable i can also get confirmation from my physics teacher on tuesday Well they aren't going to pass Year 12 physics at that rate - sorry to say! Okay let me break it down for you. The "total" accelerative force is the zero vector. You just can't add up both forces like they are scalars because the are not. Force is a vector. This is why I'm saying that if you go from 50km/h to 0km/h it doesn't matter what you hit, it's only the RATE that you slow down (or the length of the crash) that counts in regards to FORCE that YOU inside the car experience - it's not about whether something else ALSO slows down, all that matters from INSIDE the car is that you went from 50km/h to 0km/h (and how quickly you did it too). It doesn't matter whether you hit a truck going 20, a boeing 747 going 600km/h (although I imagine going from 50km/h to 0 is unlikely, more likely you will go from 50km/h to -590km/h) or a massive pile of feathers - all that matters is the TIME frame if you are worried about the FORCE of the collision. I could go on for hours showing you equations but it's a waste of my time. If you go from 100km/h to 0km/h in the same time frame then the force you experience will double. Hitting a wall at 50km/h feels *almost* the same as hitting a car coming at you at 50km/h END OF STORY. And tell those physics students FORCE IS A DAMN VECTOR I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE FUCK THAT UP FOR GOD'S SAKE. [Updated on: Fri, 25 March 2005 08:22] [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	Physics problem.	Squid	Thu, 24 March 2005 03:43
	Re: Physics problem.	Corona RT142	Thu, 24 March 2005 03:46
	Re: Physics problem.	Squid	Thu, 24 March 2005 03:50
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	Re: Physics problem.	Squid	Thu, 24 March 2005 03:58
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	Re: Physics problem.	STR8 2.8	Thu, 24 March 2005 04:32
	Re: Physics problem.	86DRFT	Thu, 24 March 2005 12:27
	Re: Physics problem.	Norbie	Fri, 25 March 2005 07:14
	Re: Physics problem.	Intensevil	Thu, 24 March 2005 04:25
	Re: Physics problem.	Corona RT142	Thu, 24 March 2005 04:31
	Re: Physics problem.	Squid	Thu, 24 March 2005 04:34
	Re: Physics problem.	Indi	Thu, 24 March 2005 04:42
	Re: Physics problem.	BlackMR2	Thu, 24 March 2005 04:32
	Re: Physics problem.	white86	Thu, 24 March 2005 04:44
	Re: Physics problem.	white86	Thu, 24 March 2005 04:51
	Re: Physics problem.	Mookie	Thu, 24 March 2005 04:58
	Re: Physics problem.	bbaacchhyy	Thu, 24 March 2005 05:08
	Re: Physics problem.	IRA11Y	Thu, 24 March 2005 05:39
	Re: Physics problem.	Dust	Thu, 24 March 2005 05:34
	Re: Physics problem.	Norbie	Thu, 24 March 2005 05:39
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Thu, 24 March 2005 05:57
	Re: Physics problem.	BlackMR2	Thu, 24 March 2005 05:58
	Re: Physics problem.	IRA11Y	Thu, 24 March 2005 06:04
	Re: Physics problem.	IRA11Y	Thu, 24 March 2005 06:07
	Re: Physics problem.	EnFlaMEd	Thu, 24 March 2005 06:33
	Re: Physics problem.	SPRINTAH!	Thu, 24 March 2005 06:30
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Thu, 24 March 2005 06:43
	Re: Physics problem.	SPRINTAH!	Thu, 24 March 2005 07:47
	Re: Physics problem.	IRA11Y	Thu, 24 March 2005 08:13
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Thu, 24 March 2005 08:57
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Thu, 24 March 2005 06:33
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Thu, 24 March 2005 06:42
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Thu, 24 March 2005 06:54
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Thu, 24 March 2005 06:49
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Thu, 24 March 2005 07:20
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Thu, 24 March 2005 07:44
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Thu, 24 March 2005 13:42
	Re: Physics problem.	CrUZsida	Thu, 24 March 2005 08:39
	Re: Physics problem.	CrUZsida	Thu, 24 March 2005 08:59
	Re: Physics problem.	NeiGH	Thu, 24 March 2005 09:51
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Thu, 24 March 2005 10:01
	Re: Physics problem.	Alex120	Fri, 25 March 2005 11:49
	Re: Physics problem.	86DRFT	Thu, 24 March 2005 12:22
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Fri, 25 March 2005 01:42
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Fri, 25 March 2005 08:16
	Re: Physics problem.	b1gb3n	Fri, 25 March 2005 02:37
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Fri, 25 March 2005 08:40
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Fri, 25 March 2005 09:10
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Fri, 25 March 2005 09:22
	Re: Physics problem.	gabe	Sat, 26 March 2005 00:46
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Sat, 26 March 2005 00:58
	Re: Physics problem.	RobertoX	Wed, 30 March 2005 05:40
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Wed, 30 March 2005 06:35
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Fri, 25 March 2005 10:42
	Re: Physics problem.	Alex120	Fri, 25 March 2005 11:45
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Fri, 25 March 2005 12:40
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Fri, 25 March 2005 22:50
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Sat, 26 March 2005 01:47
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Sat, 26 March 2005 02:16
	Re: Physics problem.	gabe	Sat, 26 March 2005 02:59
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Sat, 26 March 2005 01:53
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Sat, 26 March 2005 03:21
	Re: Physics problem.	IRA11Y	Sat, 26 March 2005 03:29
	Re: Physics problem.	Squid	Tue, 29 March 2005 03:48
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Sat, 26 March 2005 03:29
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Sat, 26 March 2005 03:33
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Sat, 26 March 2005 03:41
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Sat, 26 March 2005 04:13
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Sat, 26 March 2005 04:24
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Sat, 26 March 2005 04:47
	Re: Physics problem.	IRA11Y	Sat, 26 March 2005 05:04
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Sat, 26 March 2005 05:26
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Sat, 26 March 2005 06:06
	Re: Physics problem.	tom210	Sat, 26 March 2005 06:52
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Sat, 26 March 2005 06:56
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Sat, 26 March 2005 07:02
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Sat, 26 March 2005 07:05
	Re: Physics problem.	tom210	Sat, 26 March 2005 07:19
	Re: Physics problem.	jackel	Sat, 26 March 2005 07:23
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Sat, 26 March 2005 07:39
	Re: Physics problem.	tom210	Sat, 26 March 2005 07:28
	Re: Physics problem.	Norbie	Sat, 26 March 2005 09:47
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Sat, 26 March 2005 10:10
	Re: Physics problem.	Norbie	Sat, 26 March 2005 10:12
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Sat, 26 March 2005 10:21
	Re: Physics problem.	EldarO	Sat, 26 March 2005 11:37
	Re: Physics problem.	Norbie	Sun, 27 March 2005 02:02
	Re: Physics problem.	EldarO	Tue, 29 March 2005 16:41
	Re: Physics problem.	tom210	Sat, 26 March 2005 12:46
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Sat, 26 March 2005 12:53
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Sun, 27 March 2005 02:36
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Sun, 27 March 2005 03:15
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Tue, 29 March 2005 04:41
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Tue, 29 March 2005 05:50
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Tue, 29 March 2005 12:07
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Tue, 29 March 2005 21:05
	Re: Physics problem.	79rollaboy	Tue, 29 March 2005 21:20
	Re: Physics problem.	RobertoX	Wed, 30 March 2005 00:19
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Wed, 30 March 2005 00:42
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Wed, 30 March 2005 04:40
	Re: Physics problem.	RobertoX	Wed, 30 March 2005 04:49
	Re: Physics problem.	skellator	Wed, 30 March 2005 04:57
	Re: Physics problem.	RWDboy	Wed, 30 March 2005 13:47

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