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Re: Drugs vs Alcohol	Sat, 16 April 2005 18:34

Usually im too lazy to get invoved in rhetorical arguments, but what the hey, like I had anything better to do. So here goes. I Personally can make an incredibly unique offering to this argument. So Here I am in Finland, The rate of drug use here is almost the lowest of any country on earth. Interestingly enough it also has the highest rate of youth suicide in the world as well as a massive alchoholism problem. Now almost EVERYONE here drinks, it is inbred into the culture, it is neither embarrasing or a crime to be raving mad drunk in the middle of the day in the middle off the city, and people barely bat an eye when some plastered old man is screaming at the top of his lungs at the nearest wall impressing his point to it how important it is that women vote and collect mushrooms. It is uncommon for me to take the metro anywhere in Helsink without being within smelling range of a completely drunk messy wreck of a person, both men and women, although more often men. The boat from tallin to helsinki was a giant piss up for young and old and people were so absolutely drunk they were having domestics, falling over trying to walk and throwing up repeatedly, this included men and women up to about 80 years old and . Where does this lead? you may ask..... well, since I have been here, I have not seen one physical fight, never seen anyone being harrased, never been robbed,and not heard of anyone who has experienced these things. When i do get stopped in the streets by drunks, ( which happens alot) I get asked for a bit of change but not yelled at if i dont give. I get asked if I have any drink or smokes I could spare. and I get talked to about politics and the state of the world, and the difference between generations. These drunk wrecks seem to want nothing more than to have few and connect with other people. Not a bit of violence anywhere here, but more alchoholism than I have ever experienced. It is possible that actions when influenced by a drug may be affected by more factors than just being under the influence, here cultural conditioning seems to play a part in human interactions while under the influence of alchohol. Which means, the stereotype that people just get rowdy violent when theyre drunk seems to be culturally specific and not all encompassing. I have seen about everything that Australias drug scene has to offer, and Not one positive thing to say about it, the only positive that i can take from it is the realization of what an awful life anything to do with this is. Having seen my best friends from youth go through almost every kind of drug addiction that can be had, I have seen how it affects people in the short and the long term. ( please note that 'drug addictions' in this case also refers to alchoholism) I have seen good, normal, smart people with prospects to make the most of their life go from straight A's in a top school to selling drugs to kids to provide for their own habbit and spending years in jail and drug rehab. Drugs and alchlol are both VERY bad and sadly both are in some way endorsed by the society we live in. The only sure way to realize these thing are bad is through life experience, and sadly most people who use any kind of drug, could never easily make the realization that what they are doing is wrong, because that makes them in some way think that they are a bad person which is not something that anyone wants to admit, and although this is not necessarily the case, it is hard to jump this hurdle. There is no justification for any kind of regular drug use by any person, Life was meant to be dealt with in the state that we were born into, altered states although justifiable as a lifes experience are not any way to deal with every day life. It is beyond stupidity to believe that when your senses are in some way altered by a drug that you have a substantial advantage in the world in any way, by changing the way your brain works away from how it should you are compromising your ability to make choices that will allow you to live happily, ufettered and unhindered in a world that is built on coexisting as we are. Of course the point could be raised that ' how about people who take medication for mental illness, theyre taking drugs and it makes them better' well there will always be variations to either side of the scale that contains the theoretical 'normal' and some people who may seem like they are better on medication would never know how they would be with proper treatment ( intensive psychiatric care). And for those that are beyond the reach of help, and need to live on tranqus or such, dont be stupid and compare yourself to them, they have a disease which would not even allow them to survive at all if there wasn't a society built that supports equal rights and life for all. Although my point of view comes across as a little arrogant, its is fairly solid. I never say that I wont move from my point of view if someone can point out a more logical/intelligent/acurate or proven point of view. however, I do find the pathetic attemps at people defending thier own drug use a little tiring.. 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