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improvedae86 Forums Junkie Location: Melbourne Registered: January 2003	Re: Seam riveting an AE86 Wed, 11 May 2005 10:03 I think you and missing the point of avation rivets , most have a time or life which after that they are not holding together panels at there full strength . They are inspected and replaced by qualified person , how you inspect a rivet has got me stuff but thats what happens . How much do you really think that you need or will be able to tell any difference after welding , riveting , whatever you use . You would have to have the rest of the car set up so well to tell any change , its a old chassis yes . But how much stress are you really going to put it though ? is it going to spend thousands of k's on the track , is it really worth the time ? I love seeing these picture of people impressions where they think the ae shells have areas which need reinforcing . Most of the worst stressed and sometimes cracked ae i have seen come from japan , most have spring rates which you would have to have no brains left due to the constant jarring been worst that a boxing match . The areas they come apart are at the panel joints , not the factory spot welded area and sealed areas { the factory welds must be ok } , and i have never seen one cracking around the strut towers . Why go to all the hassle there when you are going to be running a strut bar to dissipate the stress to the other tower and the firewall anyway . As far as cages , there only the ex group a car here that has a cage that reinforces the body to become one stress member . All the bolt in and home made jobs look so overbuilt that there weight would be a huge factor if you where to try to competitively race one of those cars . Once again if the cage doesn't reinforce the suspension points and is correctly tied the the shell then its really just for the safety of the passengers , not to create a stiffer body . Heres a good link to start you with : http://www.rollcages.com.au/index.htm [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	Seam riveting an AE86	ae86 slide	Tue, 10 May 2005 10:10
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Cool1	Tue, 10 May 2005 10:30
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	shinybluesteel	Tue, 10 May 2005 10:44
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Cool1	Tue, 10 May 2005 10:48
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	shinybluesteel	Tue, 10 May 2005 10:59
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	pro_k	Tue, 10 May 2005 11:19
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	HyDrA	Tue, 10 May 2005 11:39
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Sam_Q	Tue, 10 May 2005 13:49
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	allencr	Tue, 10 May 2005 15:32
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	EldarO	Tue, 10 May 2005 15:33
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	M.W.P.	Tue, 10 May 2005 17:20
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Cool1	Tue, 10 May 2005 21:48
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	bubbles	Tue, 10 May 2005 22:15
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	takai	Tue, 10 May 2005 23:45
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Cool1	Wed, 11 May 2005 00:08
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Cool1	Wed, 11 May 2005 00:14
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	gold28	Wed, 11 May 2005 00:35
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	oldcorollas	Wed, 11 May 2005 06:20
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	styler	Wed, 11 May 2005 00:36
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	gold28	Wed, 11 May 2005 00:45
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Cool1	Wed, 11 May 2005 00:50
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Cool1	Wed, 11 May 2005 00:48
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	takai	Wed, 11 May 2005 01:46
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Cool1	Wed, 11 May 2005 02:00
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	takai	Wed, 11 May 2005 02:14
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	oldcorollas	Wed, 11 May 2005 06:22
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Bill Sherwood	Wed, 11 May 2005 02:18
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Cool1	Wed, 11 May 2005 02:25
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	opiate	Wed, 11 May 2005 02:32
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Henn	Wed, 11 May 2005 03:46
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	styler	Wed, 11 May 2005 05:11
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	ae86 slide	Wed, 11 May 2005 08:07
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Cool1	Wed, 11 May 2005 08:15
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	ninja_86	Wed, 11 May 2005 08:20
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	takai	Wed, 11 May 2005 08:42
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	ninja_86	Wed, 11 May 2005 09:25
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Cool1	Wed, 11 May 2005 09:28
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Cool1	Wed, 11 May 2005 08:45
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	takai	Wed, 11 May 2005 08:55
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Arch	Wed, 11 May 2005 09:28
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	ninja_86	Wed, 11 May 2005 09:39
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	takai	Wed, 11 May 2005 10:10
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	ninja_86	Wed, 11 May 2005 10:24
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	improvedae86	Wed, 11 May 2005 10:03
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	ninja_86	Wed, 11 May 2005 10:29
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	ShiRi	Wed, 11 May 2005 11:31
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Norminator	Thu, 12 May 2005 03:04
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	opiate	Wed, 11 May 2005 12:44
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	ninja_86	Wed, 11 May 2005 21:47
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	ed_ma61	Wed, 11 May 2005 21:58
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	improvedae86	Wed, 11 May 2005 23:27
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	ed_ma61	Wed, 11 May 2005 23:43
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	gearb0x	Thu, 12 May 2005 00:12
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	rob_RA40	Thu, 12 May 2005 00:52
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	takai	Thu, 12 May 2005 00:54
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	improvedae86	Thu, 12 May 2005 00:55
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	EvilJack	Thu, 12 May 2005 01:00
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Arch	Thu, 12 May 2005 02:14
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	opiate	Thu, 12 May 2005 11:09
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	ninja_86	Thu, 12 May 2005 23:24
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	EvilJack	Fri, 13 May 2005 00:30
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	justcallmefrank	Thu, 12 May 2005 23:32
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	opiate	Fri, 13 May 2005 00:22
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	gold28	Fri, 13 May 2005 00:39
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	gold28	Fri, 13 May 2005 00:46
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	4ageeza	Fri, 13 May 2005 01:01
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Dirty_Sanchez	Fri, 13 May 2005 01:36
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	bathurst-91	Sun, 15 May 2005 03:54
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	ed_ma61	Fri, 13 May 2005 02:42
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Bobski	Fri, 13 May 2005 04:02
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Henn	Fri, 13 May 2005 07:26
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	HyDrA	Fri, 13 May 2005 07:50
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	opiate	Fri, 13 May 2005 07:52
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	takai	Fri, 13 May 2005 13:55
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Simon-AE86	Fri, 13 May 2005 14:42
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	gold28	Sat, 14 May 2005 00:19
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	takai	Sat, 14 May 2005 02:05
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	gold28	Sat, 14 May 2005 03:01
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	cannonball	Sat, 14 May 2005 13:52
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Redwarf	Sat, 14 May 2005 15:07
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Redwarf	Sat, 14 May 2005 14:18
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	takai	Sat, 14 May 2005 15:15
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Simon-AE86	Sat, 14 May 2005 14:51
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Redwarf	Sun, 15 May 2005 03:08
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Cool1	Sun, 15 May 2005 03:43
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Redwarf	Sun, 15 May 2005 04:24
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Cool1	Sun, 15 May 2005 07:10
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	takai	Sun, 15 May 2005 07:34
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Cool1	Sun, 15 May 2005 08:54
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Redwarf	Sun, 15 May 2005 07:47
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	squeak	Sun, 15 May 2005 06:45
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Redwarf	Sun, 15 May 2005 09:14
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	rob_RA40	Sun, 15 May 2005 09:31
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Redwarf	Sun, 15 May 2005 09:52
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	takai	Sun, 15 May 2005 12:37
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	ninja_86	Sun, 15 May 2005 22:19
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	bubbles	Sun, 15 May 2005 22:47
	Re: Seam riveting an AE86	EVOSTi	Mon, 16 May 2005 06:33

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