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Re: Seam riveting an AE86	Fri, 13 May 2005 00:39

OK Ninga, no need to get emotional about it. Now for everyones benefit..... Interpitching the spot welds as you have done is not going to compromise the chassis like many have suggested. Will it be an improvement. Yes, interpitching the fasteners where you have will make a stronger joint. Is it necessary - probably not. You would see orders of magnitude improvement in chassis stiffness with a decent strut brace. The problem is not joint stiffness but basic geometry of the panels. Now if you wanted to increase the panel stiffness by cladding the inner guard with another layer of steel then that would be good also. I have never seen a car where the spot welds on a strut tower have failed, so what makes you think you need a stronger joint there. Seam welding is benefitial in areas like the sills and pillars because you are better closing the box section of the members thus making them stiffer. I am unconvinced that adding joint stiffness to a lap joint such as the strut tower will do anything. Moral of the story. Chassis "strengthening" is good when necessary ie if things are cracking. Chassis "stiffening" is good for all circumstances (well maybe not crash cases - thats why they have crumple zones). Remember Joint strength does not necessarily equal stiffness. [Report message to a moderator]

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