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[TOYROTA] Regular Location: A.C.T Registered: July 2002	Re: Countering Understeer....??? Sun, 29 December 2002 11:18 There are many varied driving courses around, many of which are perfect for your application. You just need to look around a bit and investigate what each course focuses on. My dad runs stage1, 2, and stage three driving courses, all of which gradually increase in technicality as you progress. Stage three is actually held at wakefield park raceway in Goulbourn. (primarily car control and skid detection, prevention and correction.) There are almost as many different causes for skids in a front wheel drive car as there are in a rear wheel drive. The ONLY skid that cannot happen in a front wheel drive that can in a rear-wheel drive, is oversteer due to excessive throttle application. Apart from this all the basics are the same, decelerative oversteer, accelerative understeer etc etc... The difference is that in SOME cases, different approaches are taken to correct the skid in FWD as Apposed to RWD. (in some cases applying the throttle in a front-wheel drive helps to counter oversteer) a good rule to remmember is, whichever pedal caused the skid in the first place, do the opposite to whatever you did to that pedal. I know that sounds weird and confusing but what i'm trying to say is for example, if you accelerated and caused understeer, let your foot off the accelerator. If you accelerated and caused oversteer, back off the accelerator, again. If you braked and cause oversteer, let the brake off, if you braked and caused understeer (locked brakes) get off the brake. etc, you get the picture. Of course, it's not as simple as that. You have to really read the slide and decide HOW much you change the pedal position, and also at what rate. If you are understeering and snap the throttle shut, oversteer is quite possibly going to be the result as before mentioned. You need to do everything in accordance to the exact conditions of the skid, there is no default way to correct a skid. Every skid is different, it's up to you to read it and take the appropriate actions! I hope this has healped somewhat. André [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	Countering Understeer....???	manipulate	Thu, 26 December 2002 06:17
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	Nark	Thu, 26 December 2002 13:36
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	manipulate	Thu, 26 December 2002 13:40
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	[TOYROTA]	Thu, 26 December 2002 22:33
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	manipulate	Thu, 26 December 2002 22:44
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	katsuchiyo	Thu, 26 December 2002 22:56
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	Remedy	Thu, 26 December 2002 23:23
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	Nark	Fri, 27 December 2002 01:20
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	manipulate	Fri, 27 December 2002 04:15
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	Remedy	Fri, 27 December 2002 04:39
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	BigWorm	Fri, 27 December 2002 06:09
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	manipulate	Fri, 27 December 2002 06:12
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	Bugman	Fri, 27 December 2002 06:13
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	BigWorm	Fri, 27 December 2002 07:30
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	Nark	Fri, 27 December 2002 13:29
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	Ribbo	Sat, 28 December 2002 00:23
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	manipulate	Sat, 28 December 2002 07:37
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	rollaboy	Sat, 28 December 2002 13:23
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	katsuchiyo	Sat, 28 December 2002 16:39
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	strober	Sat, 28 December 2002 14:14
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	manipulate	Sun, 29 December 2002 02:27
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	[TOYROTA]	Sun, 29 December 2002 11:18
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	Remedy	Sun, 29 December 2002 13:14
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	strober	Sun, 29 December 2002 13:25
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	katsuchiyo	Sun, 29 December 2002 13:29
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	Nark	Sun, 29 December 2002 13:37
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	draven	Mon, 30 December 2002 12:18
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	Nark	Mon, 30 December 2002 12:57
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	draven	Mon, 30 December 2002 18:43
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	Nark	Mon, 30 December 2002 22:20
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	manipulate	Mon, 30 December 2002 12:32
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	RWDboy	Mon, 30 December 2002 13:20
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	clubagreenie	Tue, 31 December 2002 06:43
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	RWDboy	Tue, 31 December 2002 16:52
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	manipulate	Tue, 31 December 2002 20:30
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	CelicaRA45	Wed, 01 January 2003 02:20
	Re: Countering Understeer....???	manipulate	Wed, 01 January 2003 09:29

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