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st184 sillycar Forums Junkie Location: Melbourne Registered: June 2004	Re: 3RD place for Webber Fri, 27 May 2005 06:27 Oh yeah - compulsory cable-throttles to help BAN THE FvCK out of Traction control. GOD I HATE the "gearbox full of chisels" sound of T/C in F1 I'm also up-for 5-speed gearboxes to make peak horsepower less important, and torque more of a factor, to close-up the field. It'd also lessen the "mosquito on steroids" soundtrack, as they'd be using a much broader rev-range. V8's versus V12's again too - current V10's sound blecchh. Perhaps a 70kg weight penalty for the V12 cars? I know this is way more than the "3 or 4 rule changes" I mentioned to help passing, but I figure I might as well air all my beefs with F1 while I'm here. 90's Indycar was ACE ! ! Mansell, Fittipaldi, Andretti, Andretti, Unser Jr, Paul Tracy, etc. etc. There were 4 chassis manufacturers and 4 Engine suppliers, as well as 2 tyre suppliers. Less grip than F1, slightly more weight and slightly more Horsepower. Truly a golden age, until Tony George (Indianapolis speedway owner) COMPLETELY FUCKED AMERICAN OPEN-WHEEL RACING by splitting off the IRL - because HE didn't "get" turning right ! ! V8 Supercars have around 180kg rear d/force and 60-80kg front d/force at top speed - hardly enough to take out "the actual driving skill" as River suggests. I don't get why they're spending $100k per-engine in V8's, when a suitably tweaked Holden 5.7L LS1 and Ford 5.4L Boss would make similar power, for just as long (1,500->1,800km) at half the price. Teh sh!t be WHACK holmes . . . [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	3RD place for Webber	CRAB-86	Sun, 22 May 2005 16:25
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	SIMDOG	Sun, 22 May 2005 17:43
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	KOFFEE-BLACK	Sun, 22 May 2005 22:31
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	old_mr2	Sun, 22 May 2005 18:23
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	SIMDOG	Mon, 23 May 2005 00:45
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	Caledwvech	Mon, 23 May 2005 03:51
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	river	Mon, 23 May 2005 06:32
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	Corona RT142	Mon, 23 May 2005 06:46
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	EVOSTi	Mon, 23 May 2005 06:53
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	Corona RT142	Mon, 23 May 2005 06:59
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	toyoda	Mon, 23 May 2005 07:05
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	thu187	Mon, 23 May 2005 07:09
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	EVOSTi	Mon, 23 May 2005 07:10
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	Corona RT142	Mon, 23 May 2005 07:17
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	Corona RT142	Mon, 23 May 2005 07:14
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	EVOSTi	Mon, 23 May 2005 07:21
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	Corona RT142	Mon, 23 May 2005 07:34
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	EVOSTi	Mon, 23 May 2005 07:51
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	river	Mon, 23 May 2005 09:05
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	4DaDrift	Mon, 23 May 2005 09:16
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	Evan	Mon, 23 May 2005 09:10
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	EVOSTi	Mon, 23 May 2005 09:24
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	4agte	Mon, 23 May 2005 09:26
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	Corona RT142	Mon, 23 May 2005 10:15
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	st184 sillycar	Mon, 23 May 2005 11:55
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	4DaDrift	Mon, 23 May 2005 16:53
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	SIMDOG	Tue, 24 May 2005 01:21
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	river	Mon, 23 May 2005 11:36
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	st184 sillycar	Tue, 24 May 2005 10:08
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	4agte	Thu, 26 May 2005 14:05
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	4DaDrift	Thu, 26 May 2005 15:34
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	st184 sillycar	Fri, 27 May 2005 06:08
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	st184 sillycar	Fri, 27 May 2005 06:27
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	EVOSTi	Tue, 24 May 2005 11:33
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	river	Tue, 24 May 2005 12:22
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	EVOSTi	Tue, 24 May 2005 12:33
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	river	Tue, 24 May 2005 12:52
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	EVOSTi	Wed, 25 May 2005 10:02
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	b1gb3n	Wed, 25 May 2005 12:00
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	EVOSTi	Thu, 26 May 2005 12:04
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	b1gb3n	Thu, 26 May 2005 14:02
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	river	Thu, 26 May 2005 12:14
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	EVOSTi	Thu, 26 May 2005 12:22
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	river	Thu, 26 May 2005 21:26
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	Corona RT142	Thu, 26 May 2005 22:46
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	Corona RT142	Fri, 27 May 2005 06:37
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	st184 sillycar	Fri, 27 May 2005 07:16
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	st184 sillycar	Mon, 30 May 2005 09:31
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	EVOSTi	Mon, 30 May 2005 10:40
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	Caledwvech	Tue, 31 May 2005 02:44
	Re: 3RD place for Webber	Corona RT142	Tue, 31 May 2005 02:49

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