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river Forums Junkie Location: Land of Oz Registered: June 2004	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts Tue, 31 May 2005 06:42 Hi, Crying out that everyone should do an advanced driver training course is itself a bandaid solution and is not going magically make everyone super safe and all good drivers. Accidents will still happen and people will still get hurt and killed on our roads. Advanced driver training isn't an instant or even long term fix and, on its own, provides only a partial solution. Large 4WD, due to their mass and the height of their bumpers and bullbars is the main issue I have with them. I don't care if the driver has been to a 1,000 courses or not. It is the vehicle itself that is dangerous, cumbersome and unnecessary in a city and urban environment. I have no issues with rural folk who require 4WD to perform their tasks and livelihood. Advanced driver training or not, some people just don't get it (like some people still drink & drive and a lot still sms/talk on the mobiles while driving, etc) and accidents occur and all the training in the world means nothing to some. So, remove the main issue, which is the large urban 4WD, or price it out of economic existence for urbanites. Sure, put people on the advanced driver training also, but don't think for one second that training alone is going to fix these problems. seeyuzz river [Report message to a moderator]

	Subject	Poster	Date
	4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	jackel	Mon, 30 May 2005 10:57
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Rolla Boy	Mon, 30 May 2005 11:06
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	river	Mon, 30 May 2005 11:07
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Ribfeast	Tue, 31 May 2005 07:06
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	riceburna73	Mon, 30 May 2005 11:11
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	paulw85	Mon, 30 May 2005 11:13
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	brodiepearce	Mon, 30 May 2005 11:13
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	4agte	Mon, 30 May 2005 11:22
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	bantech	Mon, 30 May 2005 11:23
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	1G-GTE KE70	Mon, 30 May 2005 12:34
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	shovelnose	Mon, 30 May 2005 12:59
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	jackel	Mon, 30 May 2005 13:18
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	paulw85	Mon, 30 May 2005 13:21
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	ROLLA GTi	Mon, 30 May 2005 13:55
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Mookie	Tue, 31 May 2005 00:12
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	paulw85	Tue, 31 May 2005 00:16
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Caledwvech	Tue, 31 May 2005 02:38
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	ra_28	Tue, 31 May 2005 03:08
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	stradlater	Tue, 31 May 2005 03:12
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	RobST162	Tue, 31 May 2005 03:51
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Corona RT142	Tue, 31 May 2005 03:14
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	toof	Tue, 31 May 2005 03:45
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	monkeymajik	Tue, 31 May 2005 03:48
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Corona RT142	Tue, 31 May 2005 03:49
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	ra_28	Tue, 31 May 2005 03:57
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Corona RT142	Tue, 31 May 2005 03:52
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	monkeymajik	Tue, 31 May 2005 04:19
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	toof	Tue, 31 May 2005 04:00
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	stradlater	Tue, 31 May 2005 04:02
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Corona RT142	Tue, 31 May 2005 04:05
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	ra_28	Tue, 31 May 2005 04:16
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	peeack	Tue, 31 May 2005 04:32
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	CrUZsida	Tue, 31 May 2005 04:40
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	RobST162	Tue, 31 May 2005 06:06
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Shraka	Tue, 31 May 2005 04:43
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Shraka	Tue, 31 May 2005 04:46
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Skip	Tue, 31 May 2005 04:53
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Caledwvech	Tue, 31 May 2005 06:12
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	river	Tue, 31 May 2005 06:42
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	RobST162	Tue, 31 May 2005 06:47
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	CrUZsida	Tue, 31 May 2005 07:02
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Ribfeast	Tue, 31 May 2005 07:10
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	CrUZsida	Tue, 31 May 2005 07:23
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	skellator	Tue, 31 May 2005 08:21
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	bantech	Tue, 31 May 2005 07:16
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	river	Tue, 31 May 2005 07:51
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Corona RT142	Tue, 31 May 2005 07:14
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Ribfeast	Tue, 31 May 2005 11:56
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	CrUZsida	Tue, 31 May 2005 13:48
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Corona RT142	Tue, 31 May 2005 07:16
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	CrUZsida	Tue, 31 May 2005 08:17
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	TOY77	Tue, 31 May 2005 08:38
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	CrUZsida	Tue, 31 May 2005 08:44
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	thu187	Tue, 31 May 2005 14:16
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Hi-Ace	Tue, 31 May 2005 21:06
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	river	Tue, 31 May 2005 21:41
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	TOY77	Wed, 01 June 2005 09:12
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	dimmy77_03	Wed, 01 June 2005 14:27
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	river	Wed, 01 June 2005 22:12
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	Allan	Thu, 02 June 2005 02:45
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	ndgcpr	Thu, 02 June 2005 03:00
	Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts	roids70	Thu, 02 June 2005 04:46

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