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Re: 4WD, should you need a special license to use em? give us ya thoughts

Tue, 31 May 2005 07:51

Hi,

CrUZsida wrote on Tue, 31 May 2005 17:02

River,

What make the trucks that deliver groceries to Woolies any safer?
How about the ones that deliver fuel to your local servo?
And the ones that deliver tyres to the tyre shops?

The list goes on.

The fact is that they are on the roads, and they will ALWAYS be on the road.

The best way to deal with it is to make sure people know ho wto drive in the first place.

Saying that that is a bandaid solution has to be the dumbest thing I've heard in a while.
Gotta teach someone to walk properly before they can run Rolling Eyes

I am not talking about trucks and service vehicles that deliver supplies and keep this nation going. I am perfectly aware that these vehicles are on the roads and they are necessary, and I don't have an issue with them. Most people who drive them do so because it is their job and are usually good drivers. However, they still have accidents - often with fatal results.

While I understand and don't have an issue regarding your argument in ensuring better skilled drivers are on the road, it is also perfectly valid that large 4WD in urban areas are unnecessary and, as I mentioned, inherently dangerous to other vehicles when a collison occurs.

Although you may think my comment as "dumb", it escapes me that you seem to think putting people on a course is going to make everything better and the roads will become a sweet, carnage free utopia. It won't. Sure, there will be benefits, but let's not stop at a just that. Why not also remove the offending vehicles at the same time?

It provides little solace to me if my car was hit by a large 4WD and my family was hurt bad (or worse) to have the driver of the 4WD say "Gee, sorry mate. I don't know how that happened 'cos I went on a course and all". At the end of the day, people are people and not everyone gets the gist of what they're being shown. It only takes one foolhardy moment or minor distraction for a driver to make an error that could result in an accident - no amount of training, across all the people, are going to solve these issues.

Unless the training is going to be extremely thorough and requires annual revision and testing (similar to pilot training for aircraft) then a one-off course isn't going to cure poor drivers. Furthermore, constant and thorough testing will be economically unfeasible to the average driver. And, in the end, it doesn't fix the problem of large 4WD vehicles that are driven in city suburbs, where they are not necessary and their size puts smaller cars at a distinct and unsafe disadvantage in a collision.

Finally... I don't mind having a healthy debate with you on this and the exchange of points of view, but if you keep throwing subjective words like "dumb" around (in reference to my points of view) then you've lost the argument. There is really no need to start slagging when a well constructed criticism and clear dialogue would be more effective in getting your point across. In that regard, I'll give you merit that advanced driving courses are advantagous and offer some solution (as opposed to bandaid), but it's not the full solution to this problem.

seeyuzz
river

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